Pricing difference between EV+Gas (Harvester) vs. Full-EV model?

[Noplacelikeloam]

The Harvester definitely won't be more expensive than the full EV version. They will likely sell it for the same/very similar price to the base EV because of demand and make a better margin on those vehicles than the EV.

It seems likely there will be three battery sizes. One that gives around 350 miles of range, a less expensive (base model) full EV that gets around 250 miles of range, and the Harvester that gets around 150 miles of EV range. If that's the case, the 40% reduction in battery size between the base EV and the Harvester will more than pay for the cost of adding the gas engine system.

Would imagine the REEV would be base battery plus harvester. So 250 battery only. That would be the Goldilocks number for me.

 

[Rouse]

Would imagine the REEV would be base battery plus harvester. So 250 battery only. That would be the Goldilocks number for me.

I think its been reported from a few different people at the press launch, that the harvester will have about a 150 mile range battery.

Its possible, although I think unlikely, they would have as an option an extended range Harvester with the base EV battery plus the gas engine generator. Although, after doing that the gas tank might be so small that the total range isn't that much more than 500 anyway.

 

[Noplacelikeloam]

I think its been reported from a few different people at the press launch, that the harvester will have about a 150 mile range battery.

Its possible, although I think unlikely, they would have as an option an extended range Harvester with the base EV battery plus the gas engine generator. Although, after doing that the gas tank might be so small that the total range isn't that much more than 500 anyway.

I think youre right. I looked at this article that shows all the REEV vehicles and their ranges. Ramcharger and i3Rex are abnormally high % of electric only. But others are really low. Im glad we can change our reservation! I may be more BEV than I thought.

https://www.topspeed.com/electric-vehicles-range-extender-engines/

 

[hapymayer]

So the ramcharger I'm assuming is going to need oil changes, since they are putting in a full v6 under the front hood. I wonder what kind of maintenance the harvester will need for it's gas based engine and what kind of CO out put it's going to produce.

From what I understand from a few YouTubers who got to talk to engineers is that the harvester is going to be installed under the rear end, and will be super flat (speculation that it would be a boxer configuration) and likely 4 cylinder.

 

[krs71]

From what I understand from a few YouTubers who got to talk to engineers is that the harvester is going to be installed under the rear end, and will be super flat (speculation that it would be a boxer configuration) and likely 4 cylinder.

So will these type of setups require oil changes and maintenance like a combustion engine? I'm hoping VW QS batteries come into play before this car comes out so we can get over 500 just on solid state battery.

 

[dleepnw]

i highly doubt the model with the extender will be cheaper. they are saying you can go 350 miles on battery alone and another 150 with the extender. to go 350 miles on battery means its a large battery.

 

[Scout997]

they are saying you can go 350 miles on battery alone and another 150 with the extender. to go 350 miles on battery means its a large battery.

Based on the "One More Thing" part of the presentation, the battery capacity is smaller to make room for a gas tank. You'd target 100-150 miles "EV only", 350-400 gas generator. The sheer cost and weight of the batteries needed to make 350 EV miles, plus a gas tank and an ICE would make this thing heavier than the Hummer EV.

However, I do agree the Range Extender will be more expensive. Not necessarily because it will be more expensive to manufacture but it would be an easy way to increase profitability on the vehicle.

 

[justinjas]

From what I understand from a few YouTubers who got to talk to engineers is that the harvester is going to be installed under the rear end, and will be super flat (speculation that it would be a boxer configuration) and likely 4 cylinder.

This guy thinks it'll be a 3 cylinder based on the images from the presentation. He thinks it may take premium fuel to account for the smaller engine size, we'll see I guess.

Scout Motors’ EV Surprise: The Harvester Range Extender Explained!

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

The BMW i3 came with an optional range extender.

The range extender had a higher MSRP than the base vehicle. However, the batteries in the REx trims weren't smaller than their BEV counterparts.

2020 BMW i3 Pricing
2020 BMW i3 had a starting MSRP of $45,445 when new. The range-topping 2020 i3 s w/Range Extender Hatchback 4D was originally priced from $52,495.

		Original MSRP
	Hatchback 4D	$45,445
	s Hatchback 4D	$48,645
	Base w/Range Extender Hatchback 4D	$49,295
	s w/Range Extender Hatchback 4D	$52,495