Trump to End EV mandate today(1/20/25) *** ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS TALK, ONLY POLICY ***

[timmyhil]

You have to do it in parts. Put in stations then, start networking the power to each station. Just building the stations don’t magically provide all the infrastructure to power them.

How was Biden supposed to do that when he had no infrastructure to build out on.

 

[NukeDukem]

The thing is rich folks can easily move away from fracking sites, smog ridden cities, oil saturated fields, coal mines, etc. The common working family doesn’t have that choice. It’s why rich folks who care about money don’t really worry about bad environmental choices. They can just move to a new location.

This I think, is a bad environmental choice.

 

[banjo5]

Does it really? Almost all of the chargers that law put in aren’t even active. So really he did a favor by freezing it. Making Tax payer dollars not go to waste by building chargers that aren’t even working.

Hard to argue against stopping the bleeding in our government and halting any wasteful spending. I'm not against EVs but don't agree with mandates.

 

[randyrama]

The key here is the market should not be skewed with more credits/subsidies attempting to force us into vehicles we would not otherwise buy. Currently EVs already have a leg up as they do not help pay for roads via a fuel tax - but there are several states that will be soon charging a per-mile tax for that reason. May the best propulsion system win!

Texas already put in an EV registration fee of $200/year to make up for the missed fuel taxes. I wish they did something mileage based because as it stands, we are paying more than the average ICE owner.

 

[Deuce]

Not really mostly everything you said is wrong.

Explain to me why Gas prices are still high then if were in a “oil oversupply”. Its because we don't have enough oil. Read and research before you speak.

Record profits by oil and gas companies explains why your gas prices are still high. It's not a conspiracy, just standard late-stage capitalism greed. We have a ton of oil, we have the means to get it to. How about we set up some fracking by your house? I would say there's a conspiracy with OPEC artificially lowering supply, but it's not really a conspiracy when we know they're doing it. Again, greed.

 

[timmyhil]

Texas already put in an EV registration fee of $200/year to make up for the missed fuel taxes. I wish they did something mileage based because as it stands, we are paying more than the average ICE owner.

NJ its $250 and then by 2028 is $290 plus the standard fee.

Record profits by oil and gas companies explains why your gas prices are still high. It's not a conspiracy, just standard late-stage capitalism greed. We have a ton of oil, we have the means to get it to. How about we set up some fracking by your house? I would say there's a conspiracy with OPEC artificially lowering supply, but it's not really a conspiracy when we know they're doing it. Again, greed.

i would love to have a oil pump at my house believe or not, its actually common out west. But yes i would love to have fracking by my house.

 

[Deuce]

NJ its $250 and then by 2028 is $290 plus the standard fee.

i would love to have a oil pump at my house believe or not, its actually common out west. But yes i would love to have fracking by my house.

I'm in Texas and been around oil and gas most of my life. You can definitely find cheaper places near these sites so come on down. Enjoy the smell.

 

[@6300ft]

I owned a Tesla, here in Colorado. My ev and I did little in terms of helping the environment. About 70% of the electric used to run it was from coal…

 

[volswagn]

I owned a Tesla, here in Colorado. My ev and I did little in terms of helping the environment. About 70% of the electric used to run it was from coal…

The benefit in the short-term is that the pollution from that coal plant is centralized and can be scrubbed. Over time, as more clean energy gets put on the grid and fossil fuel sources (hopefully) get phased out, your vehicle gets cleaner.

Also, the breakdown for utility-scale generation in Colorado is as follows:

Coal (32.9%)
Natural gas (30.1%)
Wind (28%)
Solar (6.3%)
Hydroelectric[a] (2.4%)
Biomass (0.2%)
Petroleum (0.1%)
Other (0.1%)

 

[@6300ft]

Hmm I stand corrected. As far as where the power comes from. I looked to confirm and the first source I saw showed they in 2010 68% was from coal. Guess I need to try and keep up. As far as where it is coming from to me it harms the environment, overall, the same. I hate the Nissan zero emissions badge, complete BS to me. Until the worlds population make a move to reduce fossil fuel consumption the United States policies are a drop in. Very large bucket.

 

[volswagn]

Explain to me why Gas prices are still high then if were in a “oil oversupply”. Its because we don't have enough oil. Read and research before you speak.

In the spirit of teaching someone to fish, I would urge you to look at the profit margins of Shell, ExxonMobil, and the other major fossil fuel companies in 2022, when prices were at their highest. Hint: They all had record profits.

Profits are down a bit for 2023 and 2024, which is why gas and oil prices fell to the sub $3 range most places in the US. And still, for the twelve months ending September 30, 2024, ExxonMobil reported a gross profit of $86 billion, while Shell reported a gross profit of $76 billion. Those profits were down around 30% from their peak, which gives you an idea of how obscene their profits were when Americans were suffering from high energy prices post-pandemic.

You can verify these figures from your favorite sources. They're just facts, after all.

 

[volswagn]

Until the worlds population make a move to reduce fossil fuel consumption the United States policies are a drop in. Very large bucket.

Yup. It's the direction that the planet is heading though - even in third world countries, solar and battery is still cheapest and first-world countries have to ensure that they're not burning things for energy and heat. We're all in the same pool, after all and we can't just throw up our hands and say, "well, no one else is doing it, so why should we?"

Analysts suggest that this year, China is projected to meet all of its power demand growth with renewable energy and will also reach "peak emissions" this year. So it's not like other major polluters are doing nothing. The EU is doing its part as well, reducing emissions by 8%, bringing them to 37% below 1990 levels (even as their GDP has grown by 68% over the same period).

Individual transit is only a small slice of emissions anyway, but my feeling is we all have to do what we can, and emissions will only be tackled as a "death by a thousand cuts" mentality - the entire economies of large countries need to be de-carbonized. Electric vehicles for personal and municipal transport are only part of that, as are heat pumps, zero-emission concrete, etc. etc. etc. We need it all, and it doesn't seem like any politicians coming into power around the world right now have any will to move forward with it. I think we're out of runway anyway unless some technological miracle happens. The ocean "heat sink" has absorbed as much as it can, and our CO2 concentrations are at a mean of 426ppm - the highest in over two million years.

Should be interesting.

 

[Cocoskyern]

By 2030 all car sales must be 65% EV and in 2035 all car sales must be 100% EV.

Nope this was never a federal "mandate".

 

[AtomicPunk]

I may be in the minority here, but I'm interested in the Scout Motors vehicles entirely because of the vehicle itself. The look, the throwback styling, but with modern amenities and technologies. I would be equally interested if it was a full ICE vehicle. So the incentives, any mandates or any other government related policies are a non-issue with me. From what I've seen, the $60k price tag doesn't seem out of line for the vehicle you are getting. I'm just anxious to see a production ready vehicle, and not a watered down version when it gets here. And also to see how the buying experience will work out, minus the annoying dealership. Just my two cents from a non current EV owner.

 

[KarlT]

Yup. It's the direction that the planet is heading though - even in third world countries, solar and battery is still cheapest and first-world countries have to ensure that they're not burning things for energy and heat. We're all in the same pool, after all and we can't just throw up our hands and say, "well, no one else is doing it, so why should we?"

Analysts suggest that this year, China is projected to meet all of its power demand growth with renewable energy and will also reach "peak emissions" this year. So it's not like other major polluters are doing nothing. The EU is doing its part as well, reducing emissions by 8%, bringing them to 37% below 1990 levels (even as their GDP has grown by 68% over the same period).

Individual transit is only a small slice of emissions anyway, but my feeling is we all have to do what we can, and emissions will only be tackled as a "death by a thousand cuts" mentality - the entire economies of large countries need to be de-carbonized. Electric vehicles for personal and municipal transport are only part of that, as are heat pumps, zero-emission concrete, etc. etc. etc. We need it all, and it doesn't seem like any politicians coming into power around the world right now have any will to move forward with it. I think we're out of runway anyway unless some technological miracle happens. The ocean "heat sink" has absorbed as much as it can, and our CO2 concentrations are at a mean of 426ppm - the highest in over two million years.

Should be interesting.

Yes, China is currently building a significant number of new coal power plants, leading the world in new coal power construction and accounting for a large majority of new coal plant development globally; this is despite pledges to reduce coal usage, with concerns raised about the impact on climate change goals.