Is Scout dead in the water? I'm not buying it at a 10-25% tariff added cost.

[Deuce]

Scout initially said they were trying to come in well under $60k and then there were tax incentives planned on top. This seemed extremely reasonable to me and I put my deposit down. Tariffs are now a reality, and with a hostile administration on EV's, there's just no way in a couple years time when the Scout is ready that they'll hit their expected price. Is anyone still going to buy it at $70-75k for the base model?

 

[KarlT]

how Do tariffs impact Scout?

 

[Deuce]

We got a lot of our steel in the US from Canada. Battery bits from china. This will affect the cost of building their plants in the US too.

 

[Mr._Bill]

Production is still about two years out. It's a little soon to be worrying...

 

[Deuce]

They will need to recoup their costs of building their factories now in this current environment, and those costs are shooting up. Don't you think there's a reason they're starting production in 2 years, and not today?

 

[Mr._Bill]

They have to build the factory before they can build the vehicles. That's why production is not happening now. There are so many things that can happen in the next two years. Why worry about something you have no control over?

Your deposit is fully refundable. I want to see production models coming off the line before making a final purchase decision.

 

[NukeDukem]

Didn’t they say they’re creating 4000 jobs? Let’s say the average salary is $45K US. The Scout CEO did say they’re going to ensure their employees are well compensated so I don’t think that’s an unreasonable salary. That works out to a $180,000,000.00 PER YEAR. Not counting the investments in infrastructure such as the plants.

If they’re making 30% gross on each vehicle and selling 20,000 units per year at a price of $75K per, that can represent a gross profit of $22K per vehicle sold. Or, $450,000,000.

If gross profits were reduced to say 20% and the vehicles had an average price of $60K, that’s $240,000,000. A probably unsustainable gross profit margin.

I’m obviously not an economist nor a vehicle manufacturing expert so these numbers are for entertainment purposes only

 

[Deuce]

Even if those numbers are true now $45k average won't be a well compensated salary in a couple years at this rate. Ford is losing money on all their EV's so I'm guessing a 30% gross profit is definitely for entertainment purposes only. But oh well, I guess no one else is concerned on how things will affect Scout in the future.

 

[NukeDukem]

Even if those numbers are true now $45k average won't be a well compensated salary in a couple years at this rate. Ford is losing money on all their EV's so I'm guessing a 30% gross profit is definitely for entertainment purposes only. But oh well, I guess no one else is concerned on how things will affect Scout in the future.

I’m pretty sure the average unionized wage at Ford is way higher than $45K.

 

[dleepnw]

Tariffs aren't nothing but still a bit early to see how it impacts their base price. Maybe they remove some features to try to keep that price and raise the prices of more optioned models. I could see the top spec Traveler being in the $85-90k range now. Which would be a bit too high for me.
But again we need to see how things evolve over the next year or so.

 

[Chuckles]

It's pointless to worry about things we can't control. We'll have an idea of pricing in 2 years. Many experts predict EV's will achieve cost parity with ICE vehicles by the time Scout is for sale. If the batteries come from Canada and the Harvester engine from Mexico, then prices will rise. I will be surprised if the 25% Canadian/Mexican tariffs still exist in 2027. I'm more worried about what they will do to VW's bottom line. The Taos, Jetta, and Tiguan are all made in Mexico. A 25% tariff is catastrophic.

 

[ToadB]

The world could blow up tomorrow, I'll wait till a closer time to see what they have going on. I have lost more than $200 in my life.

 

[Chuckles]

The world could blow up tomorrow, I'll wait till a closer time to see what they have going on. I have lost more than $200 in my life.

The deposits are refundable.

 

[timmyhil]

Im not worried about it. It’s nothing, mexico we put a hold on the tariffs today. Canada we are negotiating with. And China is China

 

[Deuce]

It's pointless to worry about things we can't control. We'll have an idea of pricing in 2 years. Many experts predict EV's will achieve cost parity with ICE vehicles by the time Scout is for sale. If the batteries come from Canada and the Harvester engine from Mexico, then prices will rise. I will be surprised if the 25% Canadian/Mexican tariffs still exist in 2027. I'm more worried about what they will do to VW's bottom line. The Taos, Jetta, and Tiguan are all made in Mexico. A 25% tariff is catastrophic.

There are things you can do about like calling your congressmen. You can control it in two years and vote more EV friendly people into office, and people that may have the sack to pull away tariff powers from the executive branch. Those should have only been temporary when it first given to the executive branch. I would say this is precisely the time to start thinking about this stuff otherwise the time will pass us by and we do in fact get whatever they decide to give us.