EREV battery capacity deploying 6x faster than BEVs. Implications for Harvester?

[timmyhil]

Heres the “facts” about the harvester from jamie

 

[Lakesinai]

Heres the “facts” about the harvester from jamie

Yes, exactly what we've been discussing. We'll see if that's what actually makes it to market when the vehicle actually exists as a mass produced vehicle.

 

[timmyhil]

Yes, exactly what we've been discussing. We'll see if that's what actually makes it to market when the vehicle actually exists as a mass produced vehicle.

I asked him a follow up question, asking if the range would/could be lower and Jamie said if anything it would be more due to development of batteries and EV motors and how they modify the VW engine (since its most likely apart of the VW modular system) by the time it comes outs.

 

[smboogie]

Interesting, I could see closer to 200mi EV range w/extender to get over 500mi by the time they are near production but never know. The technology and optimization seems to be a daily change.

 

[JesseS]

NO! The Harvester vehicle has a 500 mile Range, but the battery capacity is smaller because the harvester takes up battery space. The harvester will kick in when battery capacity reaches 100 or 150mi, using gas.

A non-harvester vehicle has the full size 350 mile battery, and it's range is 350 miles before charging.

So the Harvester vehicle can go further using both battery and engine. However, the electric battery range of the Harvester vehicle is an estimated 150 miles, meaning it's EV-only capacity is compromised by the presence of the Harvester Range Extender.

Compromises! The problem is, right now, the exact range numbers are unknown, meaning we're all guessing the relative merits of the Range Extender. It's presence means that, with less battery capacity, it will use more gas, because it will come on more.

It is also unknown whether Scout will find a way to fit more battery in the truck than the SUV. And keep in mind, batteries are expensive.

You might want to read my post again, this time with your comprehension filter off.

 

[Timmdodge60]

It will be interesting to find out if the gasoline engine will be able to charge the battery at a rate faster or equal to the rate of discharge when at maximum load, such as towing heavy trailers through mountainous highways at 70+ mph. I imagine the 500 mile range will be drastically reduced in those instances. With ICE vehicles I've owned, towing a heavy camper reduced the normal range by more than one half. And when the gasoline runs out of the Harvester engine tank, can it be refilled and allow immediate continuation of the trip?

 

[EREV4all]

To keep adding a larger battery does not seem elegant to me. I’m all for the generator. Hoping I can use the car just like an ice car. I had a Chevy Volt and once the novelty of charging wore off after two months, I just put gas in it and never plugged it in for the remainder of ownership.

I hope the generator can keep up with the demands of the car and there are no compromises.

All depends on daily drive, had 2016 Volt 2 years, filled up only once with gas, was awesome getting 55 miles EV daily no maintenance and 110v charging, EREV with 150+ miles EV range is way to go. 2 Tesla's (best software & charging) later now Rivian R1T, Terra EREV on order

 

[randyrama]

For what it is worth, from my initial understanding and discussions with Scout Support, I am pretty sure that battery will supply 350 miles of range (approx.) and the Harvester will extend it by (approx) 150 miles.

 

[joewilk45]

That was my understanding as well

 

[JesseS]

For what it is worth, from my initial understanding and discussions with Scout Support, I am pretty sure that battery will supply 350 miles of range (approx.) and the Harvester will extend it by (approx) 150 miles.

This is interesting, everything I have read, and the info coming out of CES Vegas, shows the BEV with 350 miles range, and the Harvester (with smaller battery due to extender) having 150 on battery and 350 more on harvester for 500 miles. I guess we will have to just wait for official spec's from Scout.