EREV battery capacity deploying 6x faster than BEVs. Implications for Harvester?

[Timmdodge60]

From The Autopian article "I Crawled Underneath The New Scout To Look At The Engineering. Here’s What I Found"

"You’ll also see what looks to be a cage over the range extender, a small gas engine (likely to come from the VW family) that charges the battery after the battery has depleted, which should happen after about 100 to 150 miles of EV-only range, per Scout."

https://www.theautopian.com/i-crawl...o-look-at-the-engineering-heres-what-i-found/

 

[Lakesinai]

You attacked even though he was saying exactly what you said.

150 Full EV aka on the battery and 350 on the harvester meaning from the harvester. In total what does it add up to???? Yep thats right 500

No attack intended, and yes, it is often difficult to comprehend each other's posts, especially when we're all speculating about the "facts" of a car that doesn't even exist yet!

 

[timmyhil]

No attack intended, and yes, it is often difficult to comprehend each other's posts, especially when we're all speculating about the "facts" of a car that doesn't even exist yet!

There are about 5 out testing as we speak. One of them is in Michigan, and the other are undisclosed. So idk if i would say they don't exist yet.

 

[timmyhil]

Heres the “facts” about the harvester from jamie

 

[Lakesinai]

Heres the “facts” about the harvester from jamie

Yes, exactly what we've been discussing. We'll see if that's what actually makes it to market when the vehicle actually exists as a mass produced vehicle.

 

[timmyhil]

Yes, exactly what we've been discussing. We'll see if that's what actually makes it to market when the vehicle actually exists as a mass produced vehicle.

I asked him a follow up question, asking if the range would/could be lower and Jamie said if anything it would be more due to development of batteries and EV motors and how they modify the VW engine (since its most likely apart of the VW modular system) by the time it comes outs.

 

[smboogie]

Interesting, I could see closer to 200mi EV range w/extender to get over 500mi by the time they are near production but never know. The technology and optimization seems to be a daily change.

 

[JesseS]

NO! The Harvester vehicle has a 500 mile Range, but the battery capacity is smaller because the harvester takes up battery space. The harvester will kick in when battery capacity reaches 100 or 150mi, using gas.

A non-harvester vehicle has the full size 350 mile battery, and it's range is 350 miles before charging.

So the Harvester vehicle can go further using both battery and engine. However, the electric battery range of the Harvester vehicle is an estimated 150 miles, meaning it's EV-only capacity is compromised by the presence of the Harvester Range Extender.

Compromises! The problem is, right now, the exact range numbers are unknown, meaning we're all guessing the relative merits of the Range Extender. It's presence means that, with less battery capacity, it will use more gas, because it will come on more.

It is also unknown whether Scout will find a way to fit more battery in the truck than the SUV. And keep in mind, batteries are expensive.

You might want to read my post again, this time with your comprehension filter off.

 

[Timmdodge60]

It will be interesting to find out if the gasoline engine will be able to charge the battery at a rate faster or equal to the rate of discharge when at maximum load, such as towing heavy trailers through mountainous highways at 70+ mph. I imagine the 500 mile range will be drastically reduced in those instances. With ICE vehicles I've owned, towing a heavy camper reduced the normal range by more than one half. And when the gasoline runs out of the Harvester engine tank, can it be refilled and allow immediate continuation of the trip?