4x4 air suspension?

[vrgruver]

SImple and reliable. That sells and sells and sells. Just ask Toyota. It would be a huge success to have a vehicle that outlasts my interest in it. It seems like it is the other way around with most vehicles.

 

[GbSando]

SImple and reliable. That sells and sells and sells. Just ask Toyota. It would be a huge success to have a vehicle that outlasts my interest in it. It seems like it is the other way around with most vehicles.

Exactly I still run a 88 LC with over 460k miles. I Drive it to Sothern Colorado for hunting. It's about 4 just to Alamosa before we make the track up to the Hills.

 

[Mousehunter]

Air suspension is a quick way to adjust for different loads. If you are pushing your tongue weight often, probably a decent idea - but even though I tow a lot, I don't push my tongue weight with my normal truck. I do with my Tacoma, but usually only in specific short term situations (like needing to haul feed).

I am looking at the Traveler - so probably even less of an issue. Honestly would probably prefer coil overs with adjustable preload.

 

[J35t3r]

It's a Scout that can rock and roll all night and party every day.

but only when Beth is calling.

 

[GbSando]

Air suspension is a quick way to adjust for different loads. If you are pushing your tongue weight often, probably a decent idea - but even though I tow a lot, I don't push my tongue weight with my normal truck. I do with my Tacoma, but usually only in specific short term situations (like needing to haul feed).

I am looking at the Traveler - so probably even less of an issue. Honestly would probably prefer coil overs with adjustable preload.

I get what you are saying. I purchased a $350 set of air lift for the rear axle for my Tundra. Air suspension does help. I just don't need it all the time.
I have a question for you? I'm not super familiar with air suspension. I had to add 3" off lift to fit 35" tires. I would not be able to lower the truck even a half inch without the front tires rubbing in the fenders. How would they be able to lower and lift with such a large tire without rubbing somewhere?

 

[Goose]

I get what you are saying. I purchased a $350 set of air lift for the rear axle for my Tundra. Air suspension does help. I just don't need it all the time.
I have a question for you? I'm not super familiar with air suspension. I had to add 3" off lift to fit 35" tires. I would not be able to lower the truck even a half inch without the front tires rubbing in the fenders. How would they be able to lower and lift with such a large tire without rubbing somewhere?

Properly offset wheels is the answer to your question.

 

[Dive Bar Casanova]

I get what you are saying. I purchased a $350 set of air lift for the rear axle for my Tundra. Air suspension does help. I just don't need it all the time.
I have a question for you? I'm not super familiar with air suspension. I had to add 3" off lift to fit 35" tires. I would not be able to lower the truck even a half inch without the front tires rubbing in the fenders. How would they be able to lower and lift with such a large tire without rubbing somewhere?

Scout engineers have figured that out.
Our 3500 GMC came with a 3" factory lift so we don't have to run bicycle tires.

35" tires on the Scout are Iconic and part of the initial design engineering. An outstanding and welcome feature that will be sensational in the OHV world.

 

[GbSando]

This was in that article, greencarreports.com
Scout: Trailblazing EV range-extender layout

"We are going to have an air suspension integrated as a suspension system itself (his emphasis),” said Huhnke, which will allow new levels of tuning and reduction of noise, vibration, and harshness (NVH). And he says it’s how Scout reconciles this with off-roading that will be another core competence.

Does that mean that they have gone a different direction with the suspension? No more coil springs?

 

[Goose]

This was in that article, greencarreports.com
Scout: Trailblazing EV range-extender layout

"We are going to have an air suspension integrated as a suspension system itself (his emphasis),” said Huhnke, which will allow new levels of tuning and reduction of noise, vibration, and harshness (NVH). And he says it’s how Scout reconciles this with off-roading that will be another core competence.

Does that mean that they have gone a different direction with the suspension? No more coil springs?

DAMN! Well, the price just increased another $5k at least! Rivian owners are reporting about $2,000 PER damper to replace, not including labor. Also, there goes the owner driveway serviceability they mentioned early on.

 

[GbSando]

DAMN! Well, the price just increased another $5k at least! Rivian owners are reporting about $2,000 PER damper to replace, not including labor. Also, there goes the owner driveway serviceability they mentioned early on.

80% maintenance performed in your driveway. I think the only thing I could do is change a fuse, lights, brakes, and rotation of the tires. I don't even really know what maintenance would be on an EV.

 

[Goose]

80% maintenance performed in your driveway. I think the only thing I could do is change a fuse, lights, brakes, and rotation of the tires. I don't even really know what maintenance would be on an EV.

Oil coolant pumps, coils/struts, upper/lower control arms, etc. Scout is on record in multiple forms saying 80% of the vehicle is serviceable by the end user. Now there’s added compressors, vacuum lines, and complex dampers. Plus, I’m guessing the alignment issues that’s has plagued Rivian is now going to be on Scouts.

Things can change, so I’m going to hold on to my reservation. If they force air suspension down our throats I’m out. And I reserved 3 minutes into them opening it.

 

[Schubie]

I have a friend that has Ram 1500 with air suspension. The suspension would fail when it got down below -20°C. The truck becomes un-drivable at this point. From what I understand, this was a known issue for Ram. Take a read through this. This article seems to cover the issue:
https://www.airsuspension.com/blogs/news/ram-air-suspension-problems

I don't know about about other air suspension systems, but I don't ever see them where I live. And any I have seen, doesn't seem to last long, and/or becomes a maintenance nightmare.

But it's a scenario like my friends Ram that makes me not want air suspension at all. It's just another thing to go wrong. The less things going on, the more reliable things should be.

I have 300K miles on the height & ride adjustable air suspension that was an option on the Cayenne/Touareg platform. The only thing I've had to replace has been a couple broken height sensors, which are a cheap DIY job for some.

 

[Chuckles]

Oil coolant pumps, coils/struts, upper/lower control arms, etc. Scout is on record in multiple forms saying 80% of the vehicle is serviceable by the end user. Now there’s added compressors, vacuum lines, and complex dampers. Plus, I’m guessing the alignment issues that’s has plagued Rivian is now going to be on Scouts.

Things can change, so I’m going to hold on to my reservation. If they force air suspension down our throats I’m out. And I reserved 3 minutes into them opening it.

Scout has said air suspension won't be the only one available. I wouldn't be surprised if the air suspension gave the most ground clearance though.

 

[timmyhil]

Scout has said air suspension won't be the only one available. I wouldn't be surprised if the air suspension gave the most ground clearance though.

Oil coolant pumps, coils/struts, upper/lower control arms, etc. Scout is on record in multiple forms saying 80% of the vehicle is serviceable by the end user. Now there’s added compressors, vacuum lines, and complex dampers. Plus, I’m guessing the alignment issues that’s has plagued Rivian is now going to be on Scouts.

Things can change, so I’m going to hold on to my reservation. If they force air suspension down our throats I’m out. And I reserved 3 minutes into them opening it.

“ The Traveler™ and Terra™ concept vehicles are designed to offer air springs and active damping with a solid rear axle. The optional Off-road Package will offer an off-road-tuned dampers. Final details will be confirmed as we approach production.” - Scout Motors Support FAQ.

 

[Goose]

“ The Traveler™ and Terra™ concept vehicles are designed to offer air springs and active damping with a solid rear axle. The optional Off-road Package will offer an off-road-tuned dampers. Final details will be confirmed as we approach production.” - Scout Motors Support FAQ.

I read that too, but that article is new information and it makes it sound like the air suspension will be the only offering. Of course, it could be out of context or directly pointed at a certain trim, time will tell.

I'm all for air suspension being an option for those that want it, I just don't want it being forced.