Start stop button location

[TBCreative67]

Some EVs have been showcasing the ability to jump in and go without a start button, such as the VW ID.4 and GM EVs. Eventually, they will go the way of keys to start a vehicle because they're unnecessary and cost more in parts for manufacturers. Since the Traveler and Terra are still 2 years out and by then more vehicles will dispense of on/off buttons, especially EVs, why not just get rid of them now? I agree with the above comments that once don't have it, you realize how unnecessary it was. I also agree they could put a different function where that button is. "This is the way..."

 

[Goose]

*edited for button clarification”

I think the on/off button is a requirement since this is using the Rivian software stack. Clearly, most of you have not seen the abysmal vampire drain Gen 1 Rivians, and to an extent Gen2, have. People with Gen 1 Rivians are losing 1-3kWh of energy over night while the vehicle sits. Gen 2 is a bit less but I still hear about people losing .5-1kWh every 48 hours. An on/off button to force the Rivian software to sleep “could” prevent this.

I want the on/off button to be able to cycle the systems to clear any random code and retrain system memory. Most modern computers boot very quickly, there's no reason Scouts couldn't do the same.

 

[Cocoskyern]

I think the on/off button is a requirement since this is using the Rivian software stack. Clearly, most of you have not seen the abysmal vampire drain Gen 1 Rivians, and to an extent Gen2, have. People with Gen 1 Rivians are losing 1-3kW of energy over night while the vehicle sits. Gen 2 is a bit less but I still hear about people losing .5-1kW every 48 hours.

I want the on/off button to be able to cycle the systems to clear any random code and retrain system memory. Most modern computers boot very quickly, there's no reason Scouts couldn't do the same.

Rivian's don't have on/off buttons.
Is that something you've seen Rivian say they are adding?

 

[timmyhil]

Rivian's don't have on/off buttons.
Is that something you've seen Rivian say they are adding?

I think he's hinting at that Scout is preventing the vehicles from having phantom drain problems like Rivians by adding the on/off button. He's not saying that Rivian has a On/Off button.

 

[Cocoskyern]

I think he's hinting at that Scout is preventing the vehicles from having phantom drain problems like Rivians by adding the on/off button. He's not saying that Rivian has a On/Off button.

Gotcha. I don't think the on/off button is what does it. My husband's Tesla has no on/off button and the vampire drain is nonexistent.

 

[Goose]

Rivian's don't have on/off buttons.
Is that something you've seen Rivian say they are adding?

Sorry, I can see how what I wrote is confusing. You’re correct, Rivians do not have an on/off button, they also suffer from the most egregious vampire drain in the industry. The vehicles hardly ever sleep, instead they phone home to the Rivian mothership. An on/off button could mitigate that.

*time of reply edit* your husbands Tesla has the advantage of massive development timeline. Scout, Rivian, etc are new brands that do not have the same experience.

Plus, Scout is using Rivian wiring and Rivian software, not Tesla.

 

[timmyhil]

Gotcha. I don't think the on/off button is what does it. My husband's Tesla has no on/off button and the vampire drain is nonexistent.

There’s something in Rivians OS that does it, its strange. It has everything to do with that Rivian software keeps all temperature sensors and battery conditioning on even while parked which drains the battery. Which is most likely while Scout is doing a On/Off is to keep battery draining on the Low.

tesla software is really refined for “sleep”. Lets think of Rivians “Sleep” like leaving a computer on sleep mode it drains a certain percentage while on Sleep.