Off-Road usage

[dbkarbo]

I have never been a big off roader. I like to drive the fire trails and two tracks, and play around on unplowed roads when it snows. I just wonder how well a heavy electric vehicle will do in the snow? My main use will really be to get around when it snows. I don't really have a lot of desire to get trail rash on the vehicle I waited 3 years to get. Is anyone going to go hard in the woods?

 

[timmyhil]

I have never been a big off roader. I like to drive the fire trails and two tracks, and play around on unplowed roads when it snows. I just wonder how well a heavy electric vehicle will do in the snow? My main use will really be to get around when it snows. I don't really have a lot of desire to get trail rash on the vehicle I waited 3 years to get. Is anyone going to go hard in the woods?

EV are considered the safest vehicles to drive in snow because they can make corrections by adjusting power to the motors.

 

[ToadB]

Mine will have to make it around our property which can be a little soft at times.

 

[Big Dog]

my Rivian R1T is great in the snow .. i suspect the scout will be no different.

 

[waterboy95819]

My F150 Lightning is really, really good on dirt trails and snow. The only thing keeping it from being better is the relatively low clearance of just under 9 inches. The Scout should have much more ground clearance, and better approach/departure angles, plus a shorter wheelbase. I think both models (SUV & truck) will be great off-roaders as far as pure capability, but without the Harvester generator, limited range will be the biggest issue with true off-road exploration.

 

[No_Remorse]

I currently have a Jeep and while I don't go too crazy, I do have some Texas pin-striping no thanks to branches and brush when wheeling. My wife has repeatedly stated "you'll never take a $60k+ vehicle 4 wheeling" but considering the Scout is built for it, I don't see why not. Yeah the paint is nice, it's new, etc. but I'll be tempted to take it out and see what it can do!

 

[J35t3r]

I currently have a Jeep and while I don't go too crazy, I do have some Texas pin-striping no thanks to branches Yeah the paint is nice, it's new, etc. but I'll be tempted to take it out and see what it can do!

Hence the No Remorse?

 

[Toddterra27]

I have a Jeep and live in the mountains. I will be taking it off road. I will definitely not be able to avoid the scars. I’m excited to do Truck stuff too.

 

[panzer948]

I currently have a Jeep and while I don't go too crazy, I do have some Texas pin-striping no thanks to branches and brush when wheeling. My wife has repeatedly stated "you'll never take a $60k+ vehicle 4 wheeling" but considering the Scout is built for it, I don't see why not. Yeah the paint is nice, it's new, etc. but I'll be tempted to take it out and see what it can do!

Ha. Well I have a $60K Bronco Badlands that I took to major offroad group events within 2 months of getting it and have since gone again maybe a dozen times. I paid for that capability so I definitely want to experience it and take advantage of it. There are ways to go offroading to avoid damage but yes there is always that chance. Just do it in a way that minimizes it. But if it's as capable as the are promising, it would be ashamed not to use it as such. I know I will soon after I get it.

 

[Hedrock]

I won’t be going hard enough to bounce body panels off trees and rocks, but I fully expect pinstripes from brush. Probably some scrapes on the corners of the bumpers and skid plates.

Given the rear overhang I fully expect a steel rear bumper to be mandatory for me, whether OEM or aftermarket.

Updating with worlds shittiest iPhone paint version.

 

[Schubie]

I have never been a big off roader. I like to drive the fire trails and two tracks, and play around on unplowed roads when it snows. I just wonder how well a heavy electric vehicle will do in the snow? My main use will really be to get around when it snows. I don't really have a lot of desire to get trail rash on the vehicle I waited 3 years to get. Is anyone going to go hard in the woods?

3-ton diesel SUVs go pretty much anywhere their lighter gas cousins go. As long as they have the right tires, clearance, traction control, etc.

If anything, adding the seismic torque of electric drive into the mix should make Scouts some of the most capable off-roaders in (and outside) their class.

 

[dbkarbo]

That is interesting. I guess I thought with batteries, and the harvester, these vehicles will be heavy, as you said. I thought with that weight and spinning tires they would burrow into soft ground like a tick.

 

[Hedrock]

That is interesting. I guess I thought with batteries, and the harvester, these vehicles will be heavy, as you said. I thought with that weight and spinning tires they would burrow into soft ground like a tick.

I’m also concerned about weight. The R1S weighs 7000 lbs, a second gen raptor is 5500. I wonder if the greatly reduced battery size on the harvester model might actually end up being lighter than the BEV.

If Traveler comes in at 7k lbs I probably won’t buy, unless wife decides she wants my reservation.

 

[Timmdodge60]

I’m also concerned about weight. The R1S weighs 7000 lbs, a second gen raptor is 5500. I wonder if the greatly reduced battery size on the harvester model might actually end up being lighter than the BEV.

If Traveler comes in at 7k lbs I probably won’t buy, unless wife decides she wants my reservation.

My understanding is that the Harvester gas tank will replace the space left over by the reduced all BEV battery size. On average, I think gasoline is about 2.5 times heavier than current EV batteries by unit volume.

There will also be the extra weight of the gasoline engine/generator. I'm not sure what will be located in that space for the BEV models.

So my guess is that the EREV models will be heavier some of the time, depending on how full the gas tank is.

 

[Hedrock]

My understanding is that the Harvester gas tank will replace the space left over by the reduced all BEV battery size. On average, I think gasoline is about 2.5 times heavier than current EV batteries by unit volume.

There will also be the extra weight of the gasoline engine/generator. I'm not sure what will be located in that space for the BEV models.

So my guess is that the EREV models will be heavier some of the time, depending on how full the gas tank is.

Fair point, but gasoline is way more energy dense. Figure 2/3 reduction in battery size, 100x more energy dense gasoline, and…I’m at the gym and don’t feel like doing more math.

I hear you, but I’d put a friendly wager of $10 to sons of Smokey that harvester weighs at least 100 lbs less, optioned equally…