Havrvester owners (future) here! Who's going EREV Electric + Gas Range Extender 🔋⛽️

[cvollers]

Hmm, I don't remember that in the unveiling event (and just rewatched that part of the video and it doesn't seem like the number is shown)....where did you get that info on 56:44?

I could have sworn..that this article ->

https://insideevs.com/news/738669/scout-traveler-terra-revealed/

Last night stated that it they received a pre-release article that stated the harvester was 150mile range on battery, and the rest gas, though...Its not there anymore. It does show the article was edited today to remove the "quad motor variant" so maybe they weren't supposed to release that 150 mile data.

If it is 150 mile data, that would be right in line with the ramcharger doing 145 miles on battery and the rest in gas. With the scout being 500 mile range vs 700 ramcharger, I assume that just means a smaller gas tank in the scout.

So many questions though. In the reveal vid, they showed the harvester having the generator in the back of the SUV. Maybe the same with the truck? If so, that means the terra harvester still might keep the frunk? What about the spare tire? Or maybe they have the generator in the frunk area like the ramcharger? (I doubt that though...I would assume they would keep the two platforms as similar as possible)



Well...actually, next year once the ramcharger comes out. I am assuming the ramcharger and harvester are going to perform about the same with how they handle being a EREV.

I'm most likely wrong as I assumed 280 miles of EV range before the generator kicks in. The reality may be quite different with the generator being able to be started before max EV range is achieved and in fact with a smaller battery bank in the Harvester, we don't know exactly what the Harvester EV-only max range is. We also don't know the size of the Harvester fuel tank. Even with all the unknowns, I applaud Scout Motors for embracing the hybrid option in this form and hope it works out well.

 

[Sgt Beavis]

I reserved both a Terra and Traveler Harvester. I may change my mind on getting the range extender but, for now, I would like that 500 miles or range. It's possible that I trade in my Rivian for a Terra and get a Rivian R3X instead of the Harvester but that kinda depends on Rivian getting the R3 into production.

 

[SteveG]

I mean...I reserved all 4 versions because...why not. Yes, most looking forward to a harvester terra. Our family is only EV right now, so would be nice to have 1 Ev version that we can use for long trips and not worry about superchargers or wasted time charging. (or...I can't even make it to some trailheads in my quad r1t)

The scouts look great....if they came out right now, or...2025. Across the board most specs are lower than something like my Rivians, unless they really keep true to their MSRPs. How are these going to look compared to competition in 2027?

I'm considering the Ramcharger to replace the r1t as our "roadtrip" or get to a trailhead vehicle. I'm not looking forward to ...owning a RAM or something that feels like it comes from a legacy car manufacturer. At least the scout looks more Rivian than volkswagen. But.......we are talking 2027....a ramcharger is 2025. And....700 mile range vs 500. Though still lots of unknowns. Like, harvester battery size and tank size, how it splits the 500 miles between EV/gas, etc. Like the Ramcharger is 145/550 miles ev/gas......what is the harvester? 250/500? Unknown.

A bigger EV to gas ratio would be nice...since in pure EV mode around town, a bigger battery will mean better sportiness/acceleration. I'm very worried about the Ramcharger EV only sluggishness. Even with the generator on, its only 4.5s 0-60.

Anyway, lots of unknowns but....exciting times to live in!

when did 4.5 0-60 acceleration become classified as sluggish?

 

[mackgriggs]

when did 4.5 0-60 acceleration become classified as sluggish?

Yeah..I totally get you...its just having model y performances or r1t quads for the past 4 years have really spoiled me. And actually....with my rivians I am almost always in all purpose mode so don't even have the 3.0s 0-60 like I would in sport mode...it probably is closer to 4.5s anyway.

I would be totally fine with 4.5s 0-60....but to get that, I would have to run the generator. What I'm worried about is the acceleration in EV only mode which I would be in probably 98% of the time.

 

[SteveG]

I have no idea. Scout Motors is being pretty tight lipped about the Harvester. Perhaps rightly so. The bigger question is can the reservation be cancelled and the $100 refunded?

the reservation can be cancelled and your money refunded up to the time you actually order your Scout.

 

[JTR178]

The Harvester option is the only thing I needed to place a reservation.

 

[TheShark]

The Harvester option is the only thing I needed to place a reservation.

Same here.

 

[TheShark]

when did 4.5 0-60 acceleration become classified as sluggish?

Totally, I'd be thrilled with that kind of performance. It's a wee faster than my '76 Sunbird was.

 

[Gems]

Harvester is great…but the more I read the less I am excited as it sounds like the range extender means you still have to charge. I know this is likely just a “me” problem as my use case is very different than others.

In reality, the idea of having to charge when I’m driving across states is not appealing going long distances…I just wrapped up a drive (I do it a few times a year) from the Oregon coast to Utah and stopping and getting gas is easy. Even at night. Having to find a station in the dark in an unknown area and then waiting for the charge would reality on road trip. You also don’t typically (out west anyway) go the full range of your tank. If it’s advertised as 500 miles you probably charge at 100-150 left. At least in my truck that’s a 1/4 tank. I just don’t feel comfortable going into a mountain range or long stretch across Nevada on a 1/4 tank even if I “know” I’ll be able to make it to the next station based off the range. Mountain ranges use more fuel and energy, unknown stops, etc. gas being out, sketchy areas…etc

I was hoping the gas engine would run the vehicle when charge is depleted, that way you could keep going if you didn’t have a charge available. Maybe that’s is still the case….

 

[EazyT]

Harvester is great…but the more I read the less I am excited as it sounds like the range extender means you still have to charge. I know this is likely just a “me” problem as my use case is very different than others.

In reality, the idea of having to charge when I’m driving across states is not appealing going long distances…I just wrapped up a drive (I do it a few times a year) from the Oregon coast to Utah and stopping and getting gas is easy. Even at night. Having to find a station in the dark in an unknown area and then waiting for the charge would reality on road trip. You also don’t typically (out west anyway) go the full range of your tank. If it’s advertised as 500 miles you probably charge at 100-150 left. At least in my truck that’s a 1/4 tank. I just don’t feel comfortable going into a mountain range or long stretch across Nevada on a 1/4 tank even if I “know” I’ll be able to make it to the next station based off the range. Mountain ranges use more fuel and energy, unknown stops, etc. gas being out, sketchy areas…etc

I was hoping the gas engine would run the vehicle when charge is depleted, that way you could keep going if you didn’t have a charge available. Maybe that’s is still the case….

I totally understand where you're coming from, I live in SLC and often take trips to all the national parks/forests out here...down to Vegas, up to Yellowstone/Jackson Hole. I have a Suburban with a 40 gallon tank, I could make it theoretically anywhere I frequent without any issues. That's only in theory though, when you factor in the weather, wind, high speeds (80 speed limits)...it's not worth being under a quarter tank, ever. Winter time on winter tires really kills range also.

From what I understand and other similar range extender EVs, you can actually run with a dead battery on pure gasoline. Typically the range extender puts out enough juice to drive and charge the vehicle at once. A pure EV just isn't feasible for weekend warriors like myself. I truly do not have an hour each way to spare. Hopefully the EV battery is relatively small in the Harvester so it has a large enough output gasoline generator to truly drive off the EV grid without any issues. When I would use the pure EV it would be a 50 mile round trip commute to work anyways!

 

[zyglyrox]

I totally understand where you're coming from, I live in SLC and often take trips to all the national parks/forests out here...down to Vegas, up to Yellowstone/Jackson Hole. I have a Suburban with a 40 gallon tank, I could make it theoretically anywhere I frequent without any issues. That's only in theory though, when you factor in the weather, wind, high speeds (80 speed limits)...it's not worth being under a quarter tank, ever. Winter time on winter tires really kills range also.

From what I understand and other similar range extender EVs, you can actually run with a dead battery on pure gasoline. Typically the range extender puts out enough juice to drive and charge the vehicle at once. A pure EV just isn't feasible for weekend warriors like myself. I truly do not have an hour each way to spare. Hopefully the EV battery is relatively small in the Harvester so it has a large enough output gasoline generator to truly drive off the EV grid without any issues. When I would use the pure EV it would be a 50 mile round trip commute to work anyways!

This. As long as the generator has enough ass so we can charge slightly as well as drive unrestricted i’ll be a happy camper. I will accept not getting a full charge due to circumstance and would be happy with even a 1:1 gas to electric ratio if absolutely only available.

 

[mackgriggs]

This. As long as the generator has enough ass so we can charge slightly as well as drive unrestricted i’ll be a happy camper. I will accept not getting a full charge due to circumstance and would be happy with even a 1:1 gas to electric ratio if absolutely only available.

Yep...would be great if the generator can provide enough power like you said. (I believe the chevy volt could at least to a certain point).

Though, I really don't think its going to be 1:1 gas to electric. I've seen more articles now claiming 100-150 EV only range (ramcharger is 145 miles). So you'll go from 350 miles to at best 150 miles for the harvester version EV only range, then 350 miles gas. So 350:150, not 250:250.

This should still be absolutely fine....150 mile range for driving locally should be no problem (I certainly don't need 350 mile range for local driving every day). Just means I would plug in everyday (to go from like...40% to 70-80% charge every day) instead of every other day or every 2 days in my current teslas/rivians.

 

[zyglyrox]

Yep...would be great if the generator can provide enough power like you said. (I believe the chevy volt could at least to a certain point).

Though, I really don't think its going to be 1:1 gas to electric. I've seen more articles now claiming 100-150 EV only range (ramcharger is 145 miles). So you'll go from 350 miles to at best 150 miles for the harvester version EV only range, then 350 miles gas. So 350:150, not 250:250.

This should still be absolutely fine....150 mile range for driving locally should be no problem (I certainly don't need 350 mile range for local driving every day). Just means I would plug in everyday (to go from like...40% to 70-80% charge every day) instead of every other day or every 2 days in my current teslas/rivians.

Yeah, i saw the ram charger range and i still think 100-150 miles of all electric range daily would be plenty.