Is Scout dead in the water? I'm not buying it at a 10-25% tariff added cost.

[MannyG20]

Here’s the only thing everyone can be sure of - when the Scout comes out it will cost more and have less features than the revealed model.
that’s just how it is with every car maker.

 

[Dive Bar Casanova]

My girls take:
Cybertruck:

Rivian front clip:

 

[smboogie]

The 60k starting is for a base model and I think Scout could get very close to that, but anyone thinking a loaded edition with all the top trim and options is going to be $60k is just dreaming.

 

[smboogie]

I fully expect traveler Harvester + Offroad to come in at a minimum of 70k…which, yeah, is gonna be a no go for me (unless there’s somehow 10k of rebates like they’re implying).

We can afford it but…at that price I’ll just buy a used Braptor.

Here in California the rebates don't matter because of qualification criteria. As for used Raptors, unless you are looking at 4+ years old or high mileage you are in the same price range. Looking at Autotempest a 2023 Raptor with avg miles (20k'ish) is $75k+, some approaching $80k and that's approaching warranty expiration.

 

[smboogie]

My girls take:
Cybertruck:

Rivian front clip:

Cybertrucks are literal garbage looking vehicles.
Rivian's are nice, well made inside and out but I can't get over the front headlights looking like 2 Dyson fans.

 

[Hedrock]

Here in California the rebates don't matter because of qualification criteria. As for used Raptors, unless you are looking at 4+ years old or high mileage you are in the same price range. Looking at Autotempest a 2023 Raptor with avg miles (20k'ish) is $75k+, some approaching $80k and that's approaching warranty expiration.

Braptor = Bronco Raptor. Low mileage used are popping up from 60-70 frequently, and some new ones are going for 75-85.

Raptor trucks are awesome, but yeah - they hold their value super well. I don’t have a need for either really, but my wife loves my current Bronco so if I’m going to spend that kind of money, I might just go that direction.

 

[smboogie]

Braptor = Bronco Raptor. Low mileage used are popping up from 60-70 frequently, and some new ones are going for 75-85.

Raptor trucks are awesome, but yeah - they hold their value super well. I don’t have a need for either really, but my wife loves my current Bronco so if I’m going to spend that kind of money, I might just go that direction.

I really love the new Bronco - but was underwhelmed by the engine offerings and the price at the upper trim levels. My first car was a '91 Explorer (love it) and grew up driving Ford's (mustangs etc.) but with the issues on launch of the Bronco and seeing some of the mark ups I refused to buy one.

 

[Stilly]

There are things you can do about like calling your congressmen. You can control it in two years and vote more EV friendly people into office, and people that may have the sack to pull away tariff powers from the executive branch. Those should have only been temporary when it first given to the executive branch. I would say this is precisely the time to start thinking about this stuff otherwise the time will pass us by and we do in fact get whatever they decide to give us.

I'd relax and wait to see what pans out. The tariffs are more of a starting point on negotiations and more fair trade with the U.S. Also, less CNN may do ya some good!

 

[Hedrock]

I really love the new Bronco - but was underwhelmed by the engine offerings and the price at the upper trim levels. My first car was a '91 Explorer (love it) and grew up driving Ford's (mustangs etc.) but with the issues on launch of the Bronco and seeing some of the mark ups I refused to buy one.

Whoever at Ford approved 100k pricing on Braptor needs to put down the crack pipe for even a single second.

I got my black diamond at sticker in 2022 during crazy pricing times, and buying an identical spec now has an MSRP $6300 higher. Absolutely wild.

 

[smboogie]

Whoever at Ford approved 100k pricing on Braptor needs to put down the crack pipe for even a single second.

I got my black diamond at sticker in 2022 during crazy pricing times, and buying an identical spec now has an MSRP $6300 higher. Absolutely wild.

I agree. I went to a local Ford dealership and they had a 2 door, manual transmission, will optioned but not top trim with a $40k markup! I looked at the guy and said "are you serious?", he smirked and said it's what the boss wanted. I turned and just said, "you know Ford's aren't rare vehicles" and walked out.

 

[Registered User]

Why are we spazzing out about this when the vehicle doesn’t go on sale until 2027 at the very earliest?

 

[Buzz]

The stupid part about getting hung up on tariff is that the cdn dollar depreciated at least 10% and the carbon tax is only going up. Solve those two and it would go a long way to helping your purchase power. Vote the liberals and you'll be ok. The trade war is about Chinese owning govt politicians more than it is auto parts.

 

[Mr. Bojangles]

Ok chicken little… go find a corner to curl up in a ball…

 

[Shawn_1121]

Why are we spazzing out about this when the vehicle doesn’t go on sale until 2027 at the very earliest?

BINGO!!!!

We will know the costs and trims/options most likely not until Q3 2027 with production in late Q4 2027 or Q1 2028 with the first vehicles being in drivers possessions in Q2 2028.

Folks A LOT can happen in 3yrs. Just sit back and relax and don't get hung up on what it could be or what it might not be.

 

[NukeDukem]

Why are we spazzing out about this when the vehicle doesn’t go on sale until 2027 at the very earliest?

Nothing better to do in the interim? At least it keeps the conversation going