Harvester owners (future) here! Who's going EREV Electric + Gas Range Extender 🔋⛽️

[Sgt Beavis]

I reserved both a Terra and Traveler Harvester. I may change my mind on getting the range extender but, for now, I would like that 500 miles or range. It's possible that I trade in my Rivian for a Terra and get a Rivian R3X instead of the Harvester but that kinda depends on Rivian getting the R3 into production.

 

[SteveG]

I mean...I reserved all 4 versions because...why not. Yes, most looking forward to a harvester terra. Our family is only EV right now, so would be nice to have 1 Ev version that we can use for long trips and not worry about superchargers or wasted time charging. (or...I can't even make it to some trailheads in my quad r1t)

The scouts look great....if they came out right now, or...2025. Across the board most specs are lower than something like my Rivians, unless they really keep true to their MSRPs. How are these going to look compared to competition in 2027?

I'm considering the Ramcharger to replace the r1t as our "roadtrip" or get to a trailhead vehicle. I'm not looking forward to ...owning a RAM or something that feels like it comes from a legacy car manufacturer. At least the scout looks more Rivian than volkswagen. But.......we are talking 2027....a ramcharger is 2025. And....700 mile range vs 500. Though still lots of unknowns. Like, harvester battery size and tank size, how it splits the 500 miles between EV/gas, etc. Like the Ramcharger is 145/550 miles ev/gas......what is the harvester? 250/500? Unknown.

A bigger EV to gas ratio would be nice...since in pure EV mode around town, a bigger battery will mean better sportiness/acceleration. I'm very worried about the Ramcharger EV only sluggishness. Even with the generator on, its only 4.5s 0-60.

Anyway, lots of unknowns but....exciting times to live in!

when did 4.5 0-60 acceleration become classified as sluggish?

 

[mackgriggs]

when did 4.5 0-60 acceleration become classified as sluggish?

Yeah..I totally get you...its just having model y performances or r1t quads for the past 4 years have really spoiled me. And actually....with my rivians I am almost always in all purpose mode so don't even have the 3.0s 0-60 like I would in sport mode...it probably is closer to 4.5s anyway.

I would be totally fine with 4.5s 0-60....but to get that, I would have to run the generator. What I'm worried about is the acceleration in EV only mode which I would be in probably 98% of the time.

 

[SteveG]

I have no idea. Scout Motors is being pretty tight lipped about the Harvester. Perhaps rightly so. The bigger question is can the reservation be cancelled and the $100 refunded?

the reservation can be cancelled and your money refunded up to the time you actually order your Scout.

 

[JTR178]

The Harvester option is the only thing I needed to place a reservation.

 

[TheShark]

The Harvester option is the only thing I needed to place a reservation.

Same here.

 

[TheShark]

when did 4.5 0-60 acceleration become classified as sluggish?

Totally, I'd be thrilled with that kind of performance. It's a wee faster than my '76 Sunbird was.

 

[Gems]

Harvester is great…but the more I read the less I am excited as it sounds like the range extender means you still have to charge. I know this is likely just a “me” problem as my use case is very different than others.

In reality, the idea of having to charge when I’m driving across states is not appealing going long distances…I just wrapped up a drive (I do it a few times a year) from the Oregon coast to Utah and stopping and getting gas is easy. Even at night. Having to find a station in the dark in an unknown area and then waiting for the charge would reality on road trip. You also don’t typically (out west anyway) go the full range of your tank. If it’s advertised as 500 miles you probably charge at 100-150 left. At least in my truck that’s a 1/4 tank. I just don’t feel comfortable going into a mountain range or long stretch across Nevada on a 1/4 tank even if I “know” I’ll be able to make it to the next station based off the range. Mountain ranges use more fuel and energy, unknown stops, etc. gas being out, sketchy areas…etc

I was hoping the gas engine would run the vehicle when charge is depleted, that way you could keep going if you didn’t have a charge available. Maybe that’s is still the case….

 

[EazyT]

Harvester is great…but the more I read the less I am excited as it sounds like the range extender means you still have to charge. I know this is likely just a “me” problem as my use case is very different than others.

In reality, the idea of having to charge when I’m driving across states is not appealing going long distances…I just wrapped up a drive (I do it a few times a year) from the Oregon coast to Utah and stopping and getting gas is easy. Even at night. Having to find a station in the dark in an unknown area and then waiting for the charge would reality on road trip. You also don’t typically (out west anyway) go the full range of your tank. If it’s advertised as 500 miles you probably charge at 100-150 left. At least in my truck that’s a 1/4 tank. I just don’t feel comfortable going into a mountain range or long stretch across Nevada on a 1/4 tank even if I “know” I’ll be able to make it to the next station based off the range. Mountain ranges use more fuel and energy, unknown stops, etc. gas being out, sketchy areas…etc

I was hoping the gas engine would run the vehicle when charge is depleted, that way you could keep going if you didn’t have a charge available. Maybe that’s is still the case….

I totally understand where you're coming from, I live in SLC and often take trips to all the national parks/forests out here...down to Vegas, up to Yellowstone/Jackson Hole. I have a Suburban with a 40 gallon tank, I could make it theoretically anywhere I frequent without any issues. That's only in theory though, when you factor in the weather, wind, high speeds (80 speed limits)...it's not worth being under a quarter tank, ever. Winter time on winter tires really kills range also.

From what I understand and other similar range extender EVs, you can actually run with a dead battery on pure gasoline. Typically the range extender puts out enough juice to drive and charge the vehicle at once. A pure EV just isn't feasible for weekend warriors like myself. I truly do not have an hour each way to spare. Hopefully the EV battery is relatively small in the Harvester so it has a large enough output gasoline generator to truly drive off the EV grid without any issues. When I would use the pure EV it would be a 50 mile round trip commute to work anyways!

 

[zyglyrox]

I totally understand where you're coming from, I live in SLC and often take trips to all the national parks/forests out here...down to Vegas, up to Yellowstone/Jackson Hole. I have a Suburban with a 40 gallon tank, I could make it theoretically anywhere I frequent without any issues. That's only in theory though, when you factor in the weather, wind, high speeds (80 speed limits)...it's not worth being under a quarter tank, ever. Winter time on winter tires really kills range also.

From what I understand and other similar range extender EVs, you can actually run with a dead battery on pure gasoline. Typically the range extender puts out enough juice to drive and charge the vehicle at once. A pure EV just isn't feasible for weekend warriors like myself. I truly do not have an hour each way to spare. Hopefully the EV battery is relatively small in the Harvester so it has a large enough output gasoline generator to truly drive off the EV grid without any issues. When I would use the pure EV it would be a 50 mile round trip commute to work anyways!

This. As long as the generator has enough ass so we can charge slightly as well as drive unrestricted i’ll be a happy camper. I will accept not getting a full charge due to circumstance and would be happy with even a 1:1 gas to electric ratio if absolutely only available.

 

[mackgriggs]

This. As long as the generator has enough ass so we can charge slightly as well as drive unrestricted i’ll be a happy camper. I will accept not getting a full charge due to circumstance and would be happy with even a 1:1 gas to electric ratio if absolutely only available.

Yep...would be great if the generator can provide enough power like you said. (I believe the chevy volt could at least to a certain point).

Though, I really don't think its going to be 1:1 gas to electric. I've seen more articles now claiming 100-150 EV only range (ramcharger is 145 miles). So you'll go from 350 miles to at best 150 miles for the harvester version EV only range, then 350 miles gas. So 350:150, not 250:250.

This should still be absolutely fine....150 mile range for driving locally should be no problem (I certainly don't need 350 mile range for local driving every day). Just means I would plug in everyday (to go from like...40% to 70-80% charge every day) instead of every other day or every 2 days in my current teslas/rivians.

 

[zyglyrox]

Yep...would be great if the generator can provide enough power like you said. (I believe the chevy volt could at least to a certain point).

Though, I really don't think its going to be 1:1 gas to electric. I've seen more articles now claiming 100-150 EV only range (ramcharger is 145 miles). So you'll go from 350 miles to at best 150 miles for the harvester version EV only range, then 350 miles gas. So 350:150, not 250:250.

This should still be absolutely fine....150 mile range for driving locally should be no problem (I certainly don't need 350 mile range for local driving every day). Just means I would plug in everyday (to go from like...40% to 70-80% charge every day) instead of every other day or every 2 days in my current teslas/rivians.

Yeah, i saw the ram charger range and i still think 100-150 miles of all electric range daily would be plenty.

 

[mackgriggs]

Well, here is first pic of the first screen of the charging tab on a scout (from https://www.scoutevforum.com/forum/...eras-range-extender-on-off.11018/#post-157977)

So, you can at least turn the range extender on/off with a tap, but...I wish we could see the actual range extender tab with the various options!

Of course, this could all just be placeholder software since the final product is so far away.

 

[73 Scout II]

Yeah, I jumped on that option for my reservation. Stoked it is an option and hopefully not to much more cost. I can’t see it being cheaper unfortunately

 

[soedesh]

Well...depends if the motor that Scout is putting in these can generate enough electricity to charge the battery more than the battery is currently using.

The Ramcharger, with its V6, also has the same question, with I think most people are guessing WILL be able to supply enough power to charge the battery than what the battery will be using, even towing. Though...maybe towing on flat highway, not up a steep incline.

If the generator does provide enough power, then yes, you could drive 500 miles, fill up on gas, and keep going the remaining 200 just on gas.

Though....500 miles is A LOT, like driving nonstop for 7 hours+ on the freeway. Most people would stop at least once, and during that time would fill up on gas for the generator. It would be nice, if there were options where you could selectively use the generator or not...to make sure that all the gas was gone before you wanted to stop (say, at 250 miles).

I hope it’s like my Chevy Volt. At any point you can switch to the generator to save battery. Plus you can just run it on the gas generator indefinitely by filling the gas tank. Non need to charge the battery on long trips.