Changed my Reservation from EV-Only to Traveler Harvester....Because of THIS Bonus use.

[Jrgunn5150]

Disagree with this opinion… You can take your house and run it for two or three hours early in the morning get refrigerator heat and everything up to snuff. Be able to use your vehicle for maybe half the day… But I don't see a very large percentage of the population living your scenario… When storms hit people hunker down…

Those of us in New England aren't doing much else but waiting for snow plows to come and open the roads for 24 hours. Elon Musk said the same thing about his EV's when people challenged him why he wasn't doing car to Home. His narrow minded reply was well then people can't use their cars… Last time I checked none of us are going anywhere with hurricanes tornadoes floods or snow storms. The car is sitting in the garage as an anchor until we can use it to support the emergency situation.

I'm just saying, I owned a PTO generator, and when my power went out, having my tractor running the house was not nearly as useful as having my tractor clear limbs and snow.

I have an 800.00 generator that can run my whole home without issues and I don't have to do anything, it's tri-fuel, propane or ng is all it ever sees.

 

[maynard]

I have a generator for my house, but not enough output to charge an EV at the same time, so I guess I'm thinking most people that live in areas that have frequent power outages already have generators and the harvester really should be just the best it can be for its own vehicle battery charging. Do one thing great, not several things just ok...

 

[Bkenyon53]

Hopefully someone can shed some light on this.

Since this is essentially a generator and it's not powering the wheels, is it safe to assume that once you run out of your battery, you can't just put gas in it and go like a current PHEV correct? You'll need SOME sort of charge left in the battery because the generator won't be able to charge at a rate higher than the Scout requires to operate.

I'm thinking of road trips.
If I drive 500 miles, I can't just pull over, fill the tank with gas and get another 150-200 miles. I'd need to charge the battery to a certain percentage along with the added gas.

Do I have that correct?

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Hopefully someone can shed some light on this.

Since this is essentially a generator and it's not powering the wheels, is it safe to assume that once you run out of your battery, you can't just put gas in it and go like a current PHEV correct? You'll need SOME sort of charge left in the battery because the generator won't be able to charge at a rate higher than the Scout requires to operate.

I'm thinking of road trips.
If I drive 500 miles, I can't just pull over, fill the tank with gas and get another 150-200 miles. I'd need to charge the battery to a certain percentage along with the added gas.

Do I have that correct?

That assumption seems correct to me, it's a range extender, it can slow the rate of discharge, but not charge faster than the drain.

At some point you'll still have to charge/idle.

I think a lot of range anxious people are not understanding that.

 

[Chuckles]

That assumption seems correct to me, it's a range extender, it can slow the rate of discharge, but not charge faster than the drain.

At some point you'll still have to charge/idle.

I think a lot of range anxious people are not understanding that.

We won't know for sure until Scout releases more technical details. Everything is pure speculation until then. Fortunately a reservation can be switched.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

It is speculation, but it's not baseless.

Scout called it an EREV, extended range electric vehicle.

Ram, calls the Ramcharger a series hybrid, because you can never charge it if you choose, just keep pumping gas.

Scout hasn't worded any information about Harvester as if that is the case, they've worded it as if it's specifically not.

But, you're correct, I don't know, and it's speculation.

 

[claytonbell]

So I can't speak to how the Harvester will work but I do have a Ford Powerboost with the 7.2kw inverter.
In generator mode, the truck engages the electric motor to charge the battery and the this does not interrupt the power output. The truck engine only runs when it's charging the battery and for me, that's pretty quick. It would run a bit longer on a bigger battery.
The inverter draws power from the DC bus and the motor charges on the DC bus, so while there is technically more power available while the mother is running, the inverter is only capable of what it's wound/wired for; which is 7.2kw, 30a/220v with burst to 14kw.
With a leg splitter, I can run 2 (two) 30a (110v) RV's with normal AC's, in the summer, in Texas, for about 3 days on 27g of gas. I can also run my 4.5t home AC but it's a low amp/slow start system.

As to home equipment required; My V2H is pretty simple, just a simple metal plate for a main's block and a 40a breaker and 220v plug that I connect to the truck. There are a lot of home integration systems like SPAN and regular auto-switch systems but they are mostly overkill for the few times you'll need this. Especially since I'll need to run the power cord to the truck anyway.

That said, the one thing I like to see is bi-directional charging. I'd love to see it all run via the charge port and just automatically cut over like a UPS. This of course would require some specialized equipment in your home. Your home will need some way of "black" starting the inverter. That usually involves some sort of battery powered wall charger/connector. You also need an automated grid cut-off.

 

[Knownman]

There's no particular reason the EV wouldn't either.

the downside, as a former tractor PTO generator owner, is that while your truck is running your house, it can't be a truck.

When my 800.00 Harbor Freight generator has no issues running my home, I guess I see it as more of a novelty than anything.

There is the particular reason that they lost power for 18 days. Just how do you think the EV truck gets it's power?

 

[WrenchMagnate]

In my original post, I wasn't suggesting the truck would be suitable for a "whole-home" generator. If I needed that, I would certainly buy a natural gas or diesel genset with a buss transfer switch.

The main appliances to keep powered during an outage are refrigerator and freezer, and only a few hours per day are required to keep food safe.

Great discussion on this topic, though. I believe the Harvester system will be fine for these low-current applications. No special equipment needed at my house, other than a few extension cords.

 

[maynard]

In my original post, I wasn't suggesting the truck would be suitable for a "whole-home" generator. If I needed that, I would certainly buy a natural gas or diesel genset with a buss transfer switch.

The main appliances to keep powered during an outage are refrigerator and freezer, and only a few hours per day are required to keep food safe.

Great discussion on this topic, though. I believe the Harvester system will be fine for these low-current applications. No special equipment needed at my house, other than a few extension cords.

My bad - I think I misunderstood your original post...

 

[WrenchMagnate]

My bad - I think I misunderstood your original post...

No worries! It sparked great discussion!