Article: Why More People Are Ordering The Hybrid Scout Harvester (EREV) Than The Electric One

[Goose]

Yes there are tradeoffs, but I think it goes too far to call EREVs a distraction. We did almost 8000 towing miles with our travel trailer in 2024, would have done over 12,000 if some plans had not fallen through. Almost 100 nights on the road. I suspect it will take a lot more than 5 years for charging infrastructure to reach enough into remote areas, state and national parks, etc. EREVs won't be mainstream, but are a real boon for some of us. In the meantime I think they will be a big comfort factor driving sales for Scout. Maybe most folks won't "need" it, but might not buy any EV without it.

10000% EREV's have there place in the current world! Honestly, they should have been here 5 years ago.

 

[mcclajb]

Do we have any idea what kind of noise the Harvester generator will produce? With BEVs, they are generally quiet, so I'm wondering if all of the sound generated by the Harvester will be noticeable in the cabin. I have no experience with EREVs, so I don't know if the other ones on the market may give us some insight there.

 

[AlanL]

Do we have any idea what kind of noise the Harvester generator will produce? With BEVs, they are generally quiet, so I'm wondering if all of the sound generated by the Harvester will be noticeable in the cabin. I have no experience with EREVs, so I don't know if the other ones on the market may give us some insight there.

I'm optimistic. Our 2023 Honda Pilot is very quiet inside as are most quality ICE cars these days. The Scout generator looks like it will be at the back, even better for sound isolation. Noticeable/detectable, probably if you listen carefully. Annoying, not to me especially as it won't be on all the time. Plus how much noise will the 35" rugged all terrain tires make?

 

[mcclajb]

I'm optimistic. Our 2023 Honda Pilot is very quiet inside as are most quality ICE cars these days. The Scout generator looks like it will be at the back, even better for sound isolation. Noticeable/detectable, probably if you listen carefully. Annoying, not to me especially as it won't be on all the time. Plus how much noise will the 35" rugged all terrain tires make?

I have an R1S. My all terrains are 34", so slightly smaller than the 35" on Scouts. With the OEM tires, I had a bit of a hum after the first 20k miles, but it was sporadic and not bad at all. Those kinds of sounds are more noticeable on EVs, but I am assuming Scout will develop some kind of sound dampening for the on-board generator. Just one more variable that I am anxious to hear more about as information trickles to us over the coming year or two.

 

[NukeDukem]

They've said current estimates are 300 EV, 500 EREV 150 Electric only + 350 gas to me that seems like a perfect amount. Around town if plugged in regularly (+ my solar panels I already have) it would cost almost nothing, but then if I want to drive up to my cabin which is just over ~310 miles away and uphill to the mountains from sea level it would do it without having to stop at a charger, which is especially great when I want to bring my kayaks with me on the trailer so I don't have to unhook my trailer, then charge it, then hook it back up.

Not for me. I’d like my bi-weekly trips to another city to be battery only. 150 miles doesn’t cut it. And, I’m being greedy by also wanting the Harvester engine for the very occasional emergency.

 

[quikster]

those are the numbers whether you like them or not. They may improve over the next couple years or get worse. They have options and erev is a solid trade off, they’re never going to make everyone happy. But they said this way they expect it to be cheaper and save on weight by not having as expensive heavy batteries

 

[Buzz]

This may be dumb but.. A big draw in EV is not being a high theft item. With big ground clearance Could the harvester at the rear have a catalytic converter that is very easy for a thief to access? Maybe. I hope it's protected however small it could be.

 

[quikster]

This may be dumb but.. A big draw in EV is not being a high theft item. With big ground clearance Could the harvester at the rear have a catalytic converter that is very easy for a thief to access? Maybe. I hope it's protected however small it could be.

generators don’t have catalytic converters as far as I know, would this have to just because it’s on a vehicle?

 

[joewilk45]

Per this article it's sounds like it maybe required. But it would be small size of loaf of bread. Hopefully integrated wisely.
https://www.google.com/search?q=is+...giSBwQzLjEyoAeAbA&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

 

[TwoJacks]

With some people it's as simple as range anxiety. If you don't have an EV currently the range extender makes for an easier choice to transition into a electric vehicle.

But many of us actually need the extra range and flexibility as well. It doesn't matter if you don't need it every day. If you tow a boat or a camper once or twice a year you will still get benefits from the extender. If you take extended trips to off grid places on occasion you will benefit even if it doesn't matter for daily driving.

Consider a two week trip into the Maze District of Canyonlands (one of my favorite places). An overlanding rig is going to be heavy. It's going to be weighed down with gear and have a lot of crap hanging off of it like possibly a rooftop tent, an awning, etc. Then put it in 4 low with aired down tires and go over obstacles for hours. The range of gas or electric is going to drop dramatically. A pure EV will almost certainly leave you stranded before you find your way back to civilization and a charging station. With a gas option for charging you can bring along several extra cans.

Some of the longer off road routes in that area are no more than 50 miles. I suppose if you stay out for a week or two and don’t want to go in for a charge, maybe range could be an issue, but few of the off-road routes out there by themselves would pose an issue for an EV with 300 mile range.

 

[Overproof]

Some of the longer off road routes in that area are no more than 50 miles. I suppose if you stay out for a week or two and don’t want to go in for a charge, maybe range could be an issue, but few of the off-road routes out there by themselves would pose an issue for an EV with 300 mile range.

"Go in for a charge"? LOL! I think maybe you haven't been there? It's an hour drive just to get to the entrance/ranger station from the nearest paved road. Many hours more of slow off roading to get to many of the campsites. Dollhouse took 5 or 6 hours in one direction after coming by the ranger station. From the nearest paved road you are not close to any charging points. The idea of "going in for a charge" is silly. It might take more than a day's worth of travel just to "go in for a charge" and back. Most who visit the maze stay at least a week and traverse a lot of ground.

In real world usage off roading you will also find that range dropping considerably below the stated range. I'm not talking about cruising down a forest service road in a luxury suv with stock, fully inflated tires and no gear. You can't just put the mileage shown on a map into a spreadsheet to calculate how far you can go. LOL.

 

[joewilk45]

What percentage of Scouts will be subjected to serious off roading ?? I think majority will be used as family SUV's charged at home 85% of time

 

[Overproof]

Some of the longer off road routes in that area are no more than 50 miles. I suppose if you stay out for a week or two and don’t want to go in for a charge, maybe range could be an issue, but few of the off-road routes out there by themselves would pose an issue for an EV with 300 mile range.

If you don't want to believe some random guy on the internet, here is an example of a Jeep 4xe that got 27 mies under electric power on the paved road and 3.5 miles off roading.

 

[timmyhil]

What percentage of Scouts will be subjected to serious off roading ?? I think majority will be used as family SUV's charged at home 85% of time

Mines going on a fishing trips around NJ. It will be its maiden voyage, once i take delivery at the factory.

 

[joewilk45]

I have a place in Brigantine