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CEO Q&A Key Takeaways from @Chuckles:

1). BEV battery will be in the "120's-130's" kWh, EREV will be "60's-70's", but the battery chemistries may be different.
2). Performance of EREV will be 0-60 in 4.5 vs. 3.5 for BEV, due to a "less expensive chemistry".
3). Confirmed the 350 mi BEV range. EREV has a 150-mile range, with Harvester adding 350 miles.
4). Harvester will have a creative solution for cooling.
5). Payload will be the same for BEV and EREV, around 2,000 lbs. Towing will be "about the same".
6). Scott said the engine will be a "good, high-output 4-cylinder small engine that packages well".
7). Scout is an LLC and reports to VW Germany. VW is the sole provider/funder at this time.
8). Scout is structured with the ability to seek strategic partners/outside capital or go public.
9). Would not say if Harvester will cost more, but noted that in-demand features can be more expensive.

ChatGPT AI Summary:

📝 Summary
  • 🔥 Scout Motors Revival: Volkswagen Group is bringing back the iconic Scout brand, with Scott Keogh leading the effort. The company aims to produce electric and range-extended SUVs and pickup trucks.
  • 🚗 Scout’s History & Design: Originally built by International Harvester, Scouts were rugged off-road vehicles with overbuilt engines and unique designs. The new Scout models will retain the classic off-road aesthetic.
  • ⚡ Electrification with a Twist: While initially announced as battery-electric vehicles (BEVs), Scout is now incorporating Range Extended Electric Vehicles (REEVs) to offer extended range and address charging infrastructure concerns.
  • 🏭 Manufacturing in America: Scout is building a new factory in South Carolina, aiming to localize 85% of its supply chain and generate thousands of jobs.
  • 📈 Market Demand & Reservations: Over 70% of reservations are for the SUV model, and a majority are opting for the range-extender version, reflecting consumer hesitation toward fully electric powertrains.
  • 🔄 Strategic Flexibility: By designing the platform to support both BEVs and REEVs, Scout can adapt to market shifts, allowing an easier transition to full electrification if needed.
  • 🛠 Off-Road Capabilities & Customization: The new Scout models emphasize solid rear axles, high-gradeability, and strong towing capacities. They will also offer a broad range of off-road accessories, including lockers, winches, and plow mounts.
  • 📊 Volkswagen Group’s Role: While Scout operates independently within VW Group, it benefits from access to VW’s industrial infrastructure, cost advantages, and technological support.
  • 💡 User Experience Innovation: The new models will feature a balance of physical controls and digital screens, ensuring usability in rugged environments while maintaining modern connectivity.
  • 🔋 Battery & Performance Estimates:
    • BEV version: ~350 miles of range
    • REEV version: ~500 miles of total range (~150 miles electric + 350 miles from the generator)
    • Performance: 0-60 mph in 4.5 - 5.0 seconds for BEV, slightly slower for REEV
  • 🌎 Scout’s Future Plans: While focused on the American market, potential future expansions include additional model variations, possibly a larger SUV or a smaller off-road-focused model.
  • 📢 Direct-to-Consumer Sales Model: Unlike traditional car companies, Scout will sell directly to customers, bypassing traditional dealership networks.
  • 🔮 Competitive Landscape: Positioned between Rivian’s premium adventure branding and traditional American off-roaders like Jeep and Ford Bronco.
📊 Insights Based on Numbers
  • 85% of Scout’s supply chain will be localized to North America, reducing reliance on foreign imports.
  • 500-mile total range for the range-extended electric model provides a significant advantage over many pure EV competitors.
  • 70% of early reservations are for the Scout SUV, indicating strong demand for rugged off-road utility vehicles.
  • Over 50% of reservations lean toward the range-extender model, showing that consumers prefer a backup fuel source for long trips.
  • 200,000+ units capacity at the South Carolina plant, positioning Scout for significant production volume in the U.S. market.

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Here's a summary:

📝 Summary
  • 🔥 Scout Motors Revival: Volkswagen Group is bringing back the iconic Scout brand, with Scott Keogh leading the effort. The company aims to produce electric and range-extended SUVs and pickup trucks.
  • 🚗 Scout’s History & Design: Originally built by International Harvester, Scouts were rugged off-road vehicles with overbuilt engines and unique designs. The new Scout models will retain the classic off-road aesthetic.
  • ⚡ Electrification with a Twist: While initially announced as battery-electric vehicles (BEVs), Scout is now incorporating Range Extended Electric Vehicles (REEVs) to offer extended range and address charging infrastructure concerns.
  • 🏭 Manufacturing in America: Scout is building a new factory in South Carolina, aiming to localize 85% of its supply chain and generate thousands of jobs.
  • 📈 Market Demand & Reservations: Over 70% of reservations are for the SUV model, and a majority are opting for the range-extender version, reflecting consumer hesitation toward fully electric powertrains.
  • 🔄 Strategic Flexibility: By designing the platform to support both BEVs and REEVs, Scout can adapt to market shifts, allowing an easier transition to full electrification if needed.
  • 🛠 Off-Road Capabilities & Customization: The new Scout models emphasize solid rear axles, high-gradeability, and strong towing capacities. They will also offer a broad range of off-road accessories, including lockers, winches, and plow mounts.
  • 📊 Volkswagen Group’s Role: While Scout operates independently within VW Group, it benefits from access to VW’s industrial infrastructure, cost advantages, and technological support.
  • 💡 User Experience Innovation: The new models will feature a balance of physical controls and digital screens, ensuring usability in rugged environments while maintaining modern connectivity.
  • 🔋 Battery & Performance Estimates:
    • BEV version: ~350 miles of range
    • REEV version: ~500 miles of total range (~150 miles electric + 350 miles from the generator)
    • Performance: 0-60 mph in 4.5 - 5.0 seconds for BEV, slightly slower for REEV
  • 🌎 Scout’s Future Plans: While focused on the American market, potential future expansions include additional model variations, possibly a larger SUV or a smaller off-road-focused model.
  • 📢 Direct-to-Consumer Sales Model: Unlike traditional car companies, Scout will sell directly to customers, bypassing traditional dealership networks.
  • 🔮 Competitive Landscape: Positioned between Rivian’s premium adventure branding and traditional American off-roaders like Jeep and Ford Bronco.
📊 Insights Based on Numbers
  • 85% of Scout’s supply chain will be localized to North America, reducing reliance on foreign imports.
  • 500-mile total range for the range-extended electric model provides a significant advantage over many pure EV competitors.
  • 70% of early reservations are for the Scout SUV, indicating strong demand for rugged off-road utility vehicles.
  • Over 50% of reservations lean toward the range-extender model, showing that consumers prefer a backup fuel source for long trips.
  • 200,000+ units capacity at the South Carolina plant, positioning Scout for significant production volume in the U.S. market.
 

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Has there been any word if the harvester will be bidirectional charging? As in it can power your house via the charger and thus during power outages be a large battery + generator for your house? Also seems like it could be a boon for solar users.
 

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Has there been any word if the harvester will be bidirectional charging? As in it can power your house via the charger and thus during power outages be a large battery + generator for your house? Also seems like it could be a boon for solar users.
It was not mentioned in the podcast.
 
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Hell yes. Harvester is sounding better and better. 150 miles is fine for commuting and weekday stuff. 350 miles per fill-up is perfect for weekends and exploring. Scout is making all the right noises. Hope they can deliver! I'm really glad I got a first-hour deposit placed.
 
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That almost certainly means the EREV battery will be made of 3.2v LiFePO4 cells, while BEV will be 3 6-3.7v LiNMCxx.
A slower 0-60 time was a given regardless of battery chemistry, because a pack with half the capacity (kwHr) will also have half the max power output (kw).

But 3.5 sec vs 4.5 sec 0-60 time matters only matters to people who will not mainly be using it as truck anyway. Either one is plenty quick.
Im getting a traveler anyways so it never really mattered for me lol. Not saying it won’t be hauling a boat every once and a while.

My Mini Countryman even with a bigger turbo and new air intake its 0-60 is 5.5 seconds
 

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Im getting a traveler anyways so it never really mattered for me lol. My mini ever with a bigger turbo and new air intake its 0-60 is 5.5 seconds
Yeah what is insane is when I had a tuned evo x gsr it was 4.5 second. Can't believe such a large vehicle can accelerate so fast.
 

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CEO Q&A Key Takeaways from @Chuckles:

1). BEV battery will be in the "120's-130's" kWh, EREV will be "60's-70's", but the battery chemistries may be different.
2). Performance of EREV will be 0-60 in 4.5 vs. 3.5 for BEV, due to a "less expensive chemistry".
3). Confirmed the 350 mi BEV range. EREV has a 150-mile range, with Harvester adding 350 miles.
4). Harvester will have a creative solution for cooling.
5). Payload will be the same for BEV and EREV, around 2,000 lbs. Towing will be "about the same".
6). Scott said the engine will be a "good, high-output 4-cylinder small engine that packages well".
7). Scout is an LLC and reports to VW Germany. VW is the sole provider/funder at this time.
8). Scout is structured with the ability to seek strategic partners/outside capital or go public.
9). Would not say if Harvester will cost more, but noted that in-demand features can be more expensive.

ChatGPT AI Summary:

📝 Summary
  • 🔥 Scout Motors Revival: Volkswagen Group is bringing back the iconic Scout brand, with Scott Keogh leading the effort. The company aims to produce electric and range-extended SUVs and pickup trucks.
  • 🚗 Scout’s History & Design: Originally built by International Harvester, Scouts were rugged off-road vehicles with overbuilt engines and unique designs. The new Scout models will retain the classic off-road aesthetic.
  • ⚡ Electrification with a Twist: While initially announced as battery-electric vehicles (BEVs), Scout is now incorporating Range Extended Electric Vehicles (REEVs) to offer extended range and address charging infrastructure concerns.
  • 🏭 Manufacturing in America: Scout is building a new factory in South Carolina, aiming to localize 85% of its supply chain and generate thousands of jobs.
  • 📈 Market Demand & Reservations: Over 70% of reservations are for the SUV model, and a majority are opting for the range-extender version, reflecting consumer hesitation toward fully electric powertrains.
  • 🔄 Strategic Flexibility: By designing the platform to support both BEVs and REEVs, Scout can adapt to market shifts, allowing an easier transition to full electrification if needed.
  • 🛠 Off-Road Capabilities & Customization: The new Scout models emphasize solid rear axles, high-gradeability, and strong towing capacities. They will also offer a broad range of off-road accessories, including lockers, winches, and plow mounts.
  • 📊 Volkswagen Group’s Role: While Scout operates independently within VW Group, it benefits from access to VW’s industrial infrastructure, cost advantages, and technological support.
  • 💡 User Experience Innovation: The new models will feature a balance of physical controls and digital screens, ensuring usability in rugged environments while maintaining modern connectivity.
  • 🔋 Battery & Performance Estimates:
    • BEV version: ~350 miles of range
    • REEV version: ~500 miles of total range (~150 miles electric + 350 miles from the generator)
    • Performance: 0-60 mph in 4.5 - 5.0 seconds for BEV, slightly slower for REEV
  • 🌎 Scout’s Future Plans: While focused on the American market, potential future expansions include additional model variations, possibly a larger SUV or a smaller off-road-focused model.
  • 📢 Direct-to-Consumer Sales Model: Unlike traditional car companies, Scout will sell directly to customers, bypassing traditional dealership networks.
  • 🔮 Competitive Landscape: Positioned between Rivian’s premium adventure branding and traditional American off-roaders like Jeep and Ford Bronco.
📊 Insights Based on Numbers
  • 85% of Scout’s supply chain will be localized to North America, reducing reliance on foreign imports.
  • 500-mile total range for the range-extended electric model provides a significant advantage over many pure EV competitors.
  • 70% of early reservations are for the Scout SUV, indicating strong demand for rugged off-road utility vehicles.
  • Over 50% of reservations lean toward the range-extender model, showing that consumers prefer a backup fuel source for long trips.
  • 200,000+ units capacity at the South Carolina plant, positioning Scout for significant production volume in the U.S. market.

Podcast: https://www.motortrend.com/features...keogh-inevitable-vodcast-podcast-episode-113/
The AI summary performance figures are wrong. They are the 3.5 and 4.5 figures I quoted in my summary. Everything else looks okay.
 
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Yeah what is insane is when I had a tuned evo x gsr it was 4.5 second. Can't believe such a large vehicle can accelerate so fast.
Yeah don’t get me wrong its a fun and punchy vehicle to drive.
 

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Holy shit. At 53 minutes he says the range extender and fuel tank are upgradeable - bigger tank, more power on the range extender (more range or power).

Can’t tell if he’s talking about aftermarket upgrades, or Scout offering different options for harvester engine/tank down the road but either way !!!
 
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Holy shit. At 53 minutes he says the range extender and fuel tank are upgradeable - bigger tank, more power on the range extender (more range or power).

Can’t tell if he’s talking about aftermarket upgrades, or Scout offering different options for harvester engine/tank down the road but either way !!!
Probably both factory and aftermarket. They did promise future proofing.
 
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