Current and future Scout Reservers: Have you cancelled reservation(s) or plans for other EVs?

[IHScout]

I was a Cybertruck reservation holder. Price and quality are the reasons I canceled. I still like the back to future vibe of the truck.

 

[Knownman]

Cancelled my Cybertruck and Canoo reservations. I've previously also had a spot for the Rivian, Bolinger B1 and have test driven the BMW i3, a Pole Star and the Tesla Model3 dual motor. I couldn't believe the price increases on most of these vehicles, outside of the Tesla 3, so I felt compelled to object via my cancellations. The Canoo is tanking and doesn't bother to keep anyone in the loop on what's happening and the Tesla rides like a dump truck and is so distracting and unintuitive, plus requires reading glasses just to find the menu to acces the next menu to find the third menu to do whatever simple operation it is like turning off seat heaters. In short each and every one of these EV's have proven to be really uncomfortable to drive or impossible to see out of the rear like the Pole Star, or so distracting that my driving is compromised and I feel like I'm a danger on the road. The Scout having tactile knobs and switches addresses this head on so I'm very excited to see it come to a real vehicle. Let's not hold our breath that the cost doesn't go up by 20 to 40% though.

 

[timmyhil]

Cancelled my Cybertruck and Canoo reservations. I've previously also had a spot for the Rivian, Bolinger B1 and have test driven the BMW i3, a Pole Star and the Tesla Model3 dual motor. I couldn't believe the price increases on most of these vehicles, outside of the Tesla 3, so I felt compelled to object via my cancellations. The Canoo is tanking and doesn't bother to keep anyone in the loop on what's happening and the Tesla rides like a dump truck and is so distracting and unintuitive, plus requires reading glasses just to find the menu to acces the next menu to find the third menu to do whatever simple operation it is like turning off seat heaters. In short each and every one of these EV's have proven to be really uncomfortable to drive or impossible to see out of the rear like the Pole Star, or so distracting that my driving is compromised and I feel like I'm a danger on the road. The Scout having tactile knobs and switches addresses this head on so I'm very excited to see it come to a real vehicle. Let's not hold our breath that the cost doesn't go up by 20 to 40% though.

Considering that battery prices pre kWh has dropped by 51% the prices might stay the same or go lower.

I also saw that most of these start up EV companies are failing because they are all doing contracted manufacturing. Which Scout isn’t doing since they are making their own Factory so they are already off to a better start then Fisker, Canoo, Telo. Scout will be contracting out the Factory to other companies to bring in extra cash flow which is also a massive benefit to having your own Factory.

 

[one30five]

Until the Terra I haven’t been excited enough about any EVs to put down a reservation. I’m probably going to pick up a used PowerBoost F-150 this spring to hold me over the (I’m guessing) 3+ years until I actually see my Terra.
The full size truck market is too competitive for Scout to play too many games with pricing increases (as long as they’re learning the lessons from Ford and Tesla), so I’m guessing the pricing won’t change drastically. That said, I’m betting only the top trim levels will be widely available for the first year, effectively making them expensive.
I’m lucky to have access to a small, well-rounded fleet of vehicles through my work to fill my EV, PHEV, HEV, and ICE needs.

 

[JBScout]

With the Scout’s being released in 2027, have you cancelled any reservations? I recently Cancelled my R2 reservation due to I recently leased a Ford Escape for the next 3 years.

I cancelled a Rivian R1S second gen, and a CT. If pricing holds (which it likely will not), I'm looking at getting two. R1S is beautiful on the interior and nice from the side and rear profile, but that front...ugh. And the CT is just ridiculous. I was holding out until they released the production specs where Elon missed every benchmark he was touting. It's a fun toy if you have the cash to burn, but I'm looking for something real, which I believe the Scout Traveler to be...fingers crossed.

 

[JBScout]

Cancelled my Cybertruck and Canoo reservations. I've previously also had a spot for the Rivian, Bolinger B1 and have test driven the BMW i3, a Pole Star and the Tesla Model3 dual motor. I couldn't believe the price increases on most of these vehicles, outside of the Tesla 3, so I felt compelled to object via my cancellations. The Canoo is tanking and doesn't bother to keep anyone in the loop on what's happening and the Tesla rides like a dump truck and is so distracting and unintuitive, plus requires reading glasses just to find the menu to acces the next menu to find the third menu to do whatever simple operation it is like turning off seat heaters. In short each and every one of these EV's have proven to be really uncomfortable to drive or impossible to see out of the rear like the Pole Star, or so distracting that my driving is compromised and I feel like I'm a danger on the road. The Scout having tactile knobs and switches addresses this head on so I'm very excited to see it come to a real vehicle. Let's not hold our breath that the cost doesn't go up by 20 to 40% though.

IDK, my Tesla MYLR with 255/55 18" rides really nicely, and I cant remember having an issue with the rear view mirror. But, perception is reality, so...

 

[Knownman]

IDK, my Tesla MYLR with 255/55 18" rides really nicely, and I cant remember having an issue with the rear view mirror. But, perception is reality, so...

Tesla isn't bad out of the rear window but it does have really rough ride. It's the lack of engineering from a true auto manufacturer that contributes to this design issue. Most auto reviewers, at least those who reviewed autos before EV's were a thing, will attest to the differences in Teslas user experience as compared to say the Mach-E. My big issue is the lack of tactile switches in Tesla. I just like to grab a knob without looking at it and know what it will do if I turn it left or right. It Doesn't require me to look at a menu on a screen that might be off lit because of the sun or need to have a widget that is a size or two larger so I don't have to put on my readers to see what it is. They require you to run everything through the IPAD like screen unless you assign hot buttons to some of the few steering wheel switches. That screen is at the end of my reach and I couldn't figure out how to remap it so the controls I need are closer to me versus the ones I don't use as frequently. I'm 6'3" and have to sit as far back as the seat goes which then means to control anything I have to reach to the end to touch the screen which with the bumpy ride means I'm hitting the wrong thing as my arm is extended and jostling around. So I have to wait till I come to a stop and then adjust whatever it is. My Bronco has some of the features also in the screen but not really any of the common used ones that aren't also attached to hard switches like the volume or the air controls. But unlike the Tesla I can switch the side of the screen where the map is displayed versus the radio for example and then swap it back with a simple swap. It's actually quite good as compared to say my wife's Toyota Grand Highlander which isn't adjustable and likes to park the icons are very inconvenient places based off of whatever logic they've decided upon. The base of the screen on the Bronco has a ledge where I can rest my palm as I navigate anything whilst on the road so I have way fewer missed hits.
I think these manufacturers need to realize that re-inventing the wheel, literally as in the Tesla Cyber truck and Models S Plaid, is not doing them any favors and may actually be hurting their adoption. It's a bit arrogant to believe that because you as a manufacture can do something that you might decide to ignore the 100 plus years of thought consideration and engineering that went into the designs of everything before it. Just because it can be done, doesn't mean it should be done.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I have a Rivian R2 reservation and a Scout reservation. I canceled our Silverado reservation when I bought the Lightning. If the R2 comes out before the Scout and my partner likes it more than the Mustang Mach-e she's currently driving, we'll probably go with that. Then we'll be considering the Scout Terra as a possible replacement for the Lightning but it'll likely be 2030 before we're ready to replace the Lightning. Maybe Scout will have a mid-sized electric truck by 2030.

 

[JBScout]

Tesla isn't bad out of the rear window but it does have really rough ride. It's the lack of engineering from a true auto manufacturer that contributes to this design issue. Most auto reviewers, at least those who reviewed autos before EV's were a thing, will attest to the differences in Teslas user experience as compared to say the Mach-E. My big issue is the lack of tactile switches in Tesla. I just like to grab a knob without looking at it and know what it will do if I turn it left or right. It Doesn't require me to look at a menu on a screen that might be off lit because of the sun or need to have a widget that is a size or two larger so I don't have to put on my readers to see what it is. They require you to run everything through the IPAD like screen unless you assign hot buttons to some of the few steering wheel switches. That screen is at the end of my reach and I couldn't figure out how to remap it so the controls I need are closer to me versus the ones I don't use as frequently. I'm 6'3" and have to sit as far back as the seat goes which then means to control anything I have to reach to the end to touch the screen which with the bumpy ride means I'm hitting the wrong thing as my arm is extended and jostling around. So I have to wait till I come to a stop and then adjust whatever it is. My Bronco has some of the features also in the screen but not really any of the common used ones that aren't also attached to hard switches like the volume or the air controls. But unlike the Tesla I can switch the side of the screen where the map is displayed versus the radio for example and then swap it back with a simple swap. It's actually quite good as compared to say my wife's Toyota Grand Highlander which isn't adjustable and likes to park the icons are very inconvenient places based off of whatever logic they've decided upon. The base of the screen on the Bronco has a ledge where I can rest my palm as I navigate anything whilst on the road so I have way fewer missed hits.
I think these manufacturers need to realize that re-inventing the wheel, literally as in the Tesla Cyber truck and Models S Plaid, is not doing them any favors and may actually be hurting their adoption. It's a bit arrogant to believe that because you as a manufacture can do something that you might decide to ignore the 100 plus years of thought consideration and engineering that went into the designs of everything before it. Just because it can be done, doesn't mean it should be done.

Yeah, I understand that some folks like the buttons, and I'm a big guy too, 6'2" 260, and I have the seats set to easy entry for ingress/egress, but actually have them set to move forward for my driving position. I love the interior of the Scout Traveler, but the buttons and knobs don't sway me one way or the other. The number of functions in my MY and M3 that you can control with the scroll wheels and especially voice commands (which I have really embraced) is pretty incredible. If you've never driven an MY with my tire set up, you should try it, makes a huge difference. But any of the sport style tires makes the ride very rough. I got in my son's M3 the other day after having not been in it for close to a year (away at school and gone over the summer for amateur golf events) and it was as if I could feel every pebble or crack in the road, really harsh compared to mine. I'll be switching his set up out this summer.