Start stop button location

[maynard]

I agree that I'd like it on the dash and I agree that I'd prefer to have one over an "always-on" scenario...

 

[maynard]

I understand where you’re coming from, but with the car being electric even with the “on/off” button the car is technically still on all the time, just a low power mode. For electric vehicles (EVs), an on/off button isn't necessary because they operate differently from traditional cars. Unlike gas cars, EVs have electric motors that can start instantly without the need for an engine to warm up, so they're always in a ready state. When you "turn off" an EV, it actually goes into a low-power mode, conserving energy while still allowing for quick reactivation of systems like the battery management for safety and efficiency. This design reduces wear on components and saves energy, as there's no need to cycle power like you would with an internal combustion engine. Essentially, EVs are built for instant readiness and efficiency, making an on/off switch more about user interface than actual functionality.
I think it just adds clunkiness to the steering wheel when ultimately it’s not necessary.

Agreed that it shouldn't be on the steering wheel, but "always-on" is very different from "button-on". I retired from writing embedded software and many systems I worked on had a low-power mode, but in reality the processors are still running code and have ample time to step towards bugs etc. With a button-on scenario the processor can actually sleep and not execute code. It allows for a standard jumping-off point for the code which makes a lot of things better in the software world (including finding bugs). Just my opinion...

 

[JesseS]

Even your computer needs a reboot on occasion to clear the caches for a fresh code upload, or glitches creep in, causing errors or lag, and the Scout will be a big computer on wheels, I prefer the power down on/off button to allow the systems to clear as much as possible for a fresh restart, but would prefer it on the dash.

 

[RMK!]

I assume this "Button" is only on the Harvester models?
BEV's don't need no stinkin start/stop button.

 

[etmotox]

Per one of the videos. It’s also a knob that cycles through the different driving modes

I like the function of the wheel. I like the location of that button as long as it doesn't interfere with driving dynamics. I think it would be a great action button you can program. Maybe to activate tint on the sun roof.

 

[timmyhil]

I assume this "Button" is only on the Harvester models?
BEV's don't need no stinkin start/stop button.

Nope its a standard, both models. It’s cheaper to make one mold than two. Also helps reduce costs by having shared parts.

 

[randyone]

I assume this "Button" is only on the Harvester models?
BEV's don't need no stinkin start/stop button.

I am thinking the same thing. Wouldn’t you need a way to start and stop the onboard generator

 

[Mr._Bill]

I prefer a button to tell the computer when I'm ready for it, and when I'm done with it. I don't want the dash lighting up every time I walk near the car or open a door to get something. I want to be able to leave the AC on while running errands. I don't want it turning off just because I get out and walk away.

 

[etmotox]

I am thinking the same thing. Wouldn’t you need a way to start and stop the onboard generator

I would imagine the generator would be able to start automatically at a desired level or pre set setting. Or be able to start it from a menu on the screen. I don't see the need for that to be such a quick/easy to button.

 

[Mr._Bill]

I would imagine the generator would be able to start automatically at a desired level or pre set setting. Or be able to start it from a menu on the screen. I don't see the need for that to be such a quick/easy to button.

I would like to see a manual button and hour meter on the dash, along with whatever menu options are included.

 

[Cocoskyern]

Ugh not interested in going back to a "start" button. Hopefully they reconsider, especially for the BEV's.

 

[Orion3000]

Having an ON/OFF button is 1 more step I have to do to get moving. No thanks. Get in, step on brake, put in gear and go.

I understand where you’re coming from, but with the car being electric even with the “on/off” button the car is technically still on all the time, just a low power mode. For electric vehicles (EVs), an on/off button isn't necessary because they operate differently from traditional cars. Unlike gas cars, EVs have electric motors that can start instantly without the need for an engine to warm up, so they're always in a ready state. When you "turn off" an EV, it actually goes into a low-power mode, conserving energy while still allowing for quick reactivation of systems like the battery management for safety and efficiency. This design reduces wear on components and saves energy, as there's no need to cycle power like you would with an internal combustion engine. Essentially, EVs are built for instant readiness and efficiency, making an on/off switch more about user interface than actual functionality.
I think it just adds clunkiness to the steering wheel when ultimately it’s not necessary.

I agree with everything you said. I own a tesla and Its going to be tough to go back to a redundant "button" .

 

[JesseS]

There are several systems that still need a few seconds to start up by loading code, and doing diagnostics, so a start/stop button makes sense to me, but I am old and don't need everything done for me <yet>.

 

[KRog]

I disagree with almost everything you said.

I agree that there should still be a start button but not on the steering wheel. Buttons on the steering wheel are there for accessibility and repeated use. A start button is used twice per drive cycle. It belongs on the dash or close to the sterring column. As for why it should have one at all. I feel the whole point of this car is to be a retro throw back. It has physical nobs when most have gone to a touch screen interface, and an optioned bench seat which has fallen out of style for what, 20 years now! Yes it may not technically need a button, but in the spirit of the vehicle it should be there.