What's the Gas + EV (Harvester) version going to sound like? Fake exhaust sound?

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Given that it's basically an EV with a gas powered generator in it somewhere, what's it going to sound like driving on of these? I assume it's not going to sound like a typical generator running. Are they going to pipe in fake ICE exhaust noise? Something else?
 

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Its not a hybrid. So nothing will be kicking on at above 30mph. It will probably have a limit on what percentage of battery left that it turns on.

The generator is gonna have a 3 zone muffler and cat system, so you wont hear any noise(possibly very faintly). Its also a inline 3.
 
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Its not a hybrid. So nothing will be kicking on at above 30mph. It will probably have a limit on what percentage of battery left that it turns on.

The generator is gonna have a 3 zone muffler and cat system, so you wont hear any noise(possibly very faintly). Its also a inline 3.
interesting, I didn’t catch that detail. Was it in the presentation somewhere?
 

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interesting, I didn’t catch that detail. Was it in the presentation somewhere?
It’s not a Hybrid it’s a EREV(Extended Range Electric Vehicle). My guess is that when the battery start to reach around 35 the generator will kick on and start to spin some type of alternator that will “harvest” electricity. And put it back into the battery allow you to drive farther. But it won’t be any way able to run off of the Engine since it’s not connected to the drivetrain in any way other than making juice for the battery.

The Inline 3 is what’s the rumors around whats going into it, and from my experience in the automotive industry to keep the truck pretty much carbon neutral it would need to have a 3 muffler and catalytic compact system. Which is why in the presentation for the harvester you see 3 large-ish cylinders.
 

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I’ll try to find out who’s making the muffler/cat combo Unit.

EDIT: From what I’m finding it seems Walker Exhausts would be a good guess since they are made in Virginia, and they make Muffler/Cat Combo Unit.
 

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It’s not a Hybrid it’s a EREV(Extended Range Electric Vehicle). My guess is that when the battery start to reach around 35 the generator will kick on and start to spin some type of alternator that will “harvest” electricity. And put it back into the battery allow you to drive farther. But it won’t be any way able to run off of the Engine since it’s not connected to the drivetrain in any way other than making juice for the battery.

The Inline 3 is what’s the rumors around whats going into it, and from my experience in the automotive industry to keep the truck pretty much carbon neutral it would need to have a 3 muffler and catalytic compact system. Which is why in the presentation for the harvester you see 3 large-ish cylinders.
An EREV is a series-hybrid. EREV is a stupid marketing name congered up because most non-technical people don't understand there are two types of hybrid vehicles: Parallell Hybrid (i.e. Prius) and Series Hybrid (i.e. Volt* or BMW i3).

*the Volt was unique in that its transmission could switch to parallel hybrid operation under specific circumstances.

Because your are confusing the subject matter for everyone, to help others understand hybrids... Hybrids are divided into two architectures: (a) Parallel Hybrid and (b) Series Hybrid.

Parallel means the gas motor (it can be gasoline or diesel) runs in parallel with the electric drivetrain to power the electric motors and charge the battery and has a mechanical connection to the road wheels. There are several sub-variations of the Parallell hybrid system.

A Series Hybrid means the gas engine operates to create electricity that powers the electric drive motors and charge the battery. The gas engine is not mechanically connected to the road wheels. It's called "series" because the engine-powered electric generator has to make electricity first before the car will move. Make electricity first means the generator either supplies the electric drive motors with power or charges the battery, or both. It appears the Harvester architecture will also be a PHEV (Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle), which means it can be plugged in to a charger to charge the battery in advance of the engine-generator supplying power to the electric drivetrain. Once the battery reaches a predetermined level of energy depletion the engine-generator starts and begins powering the electric drivetrain.
 
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An EREV is a series-hybrid. EREV is a stupid marketing name congered up because most non-technical people don't understand there are two types of hybrid vehicles: Parallell Hybrid (i.e. Prius) and Series Hybrid (i.e. Volt* or BMW i3).

*the Volt was unique in that its transmission could switch to parallel hybrid operation under specific circumstances.

Because your are confusing the subject matter for everyone, to help others understand hybrids... Hybrids are divided into two architectures: (a) Parallel Hybrid and (b) Series Hybrid.

Parallel means the gas motor (it can be gasoline or diesel) runs in parallel with the electric drivetrain to power the electric motors and charge the battery and has a mechanical connection to the road wheels. There are several sub-variations of the Parallell hybrid system.

A Series Hybrid means the gas engine operates to create electricity that powers the electric drive motors and charge the battery. The gas engine is not mechanically connected to the road wheels. It's called "series" because the engine-powered electric generator has to make electricity first before the car will move. Make electricity first means the generator either supplies the electric drive motors with power or charges the battery, or both. It appears the Harvester architecture will also be a PHEV (Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle), which means it can be plugged in to a charger to charge the battery in advance of the engine-generator supplying power to the electric drivetrain. Once the battery reaches a predetermined level of energy depletion the engine-generator starts and begins powering the electric drivetrain.
Would you like a gold metal or something? For just expanding and making a lengthier version of what i said.
 
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An EREV is a series-hybrid. EREV is a stupid marketing name congered up because most non-technical people don't understand there are two types of hybrid vehicles: Parallell Hybrid (i.e. Prius) and Series Hybrid (i.e. Volt* or BMW i3).

*the Volt was unique in that its transmission could switch to parallel hybrid operation under specific circumstances.

Because your are confusing the subject matter for everyone, to help others understand hybrids... Hybrids are divided into two architectures: (a) Parallel Hybrid and (b) Series Hybrid.

Parallel means the gas motor (it can be gasoline or diesel) runs in parallel with the electric drivetrain to power the electric motors and charge the battery and has a mechanical connection to the road wheels. There are several sub-variations of the Parallell hybrid system.

A Series Hybrid means the gas engine operates to create electricity that powers the electric drive motors and charge the battery. The gas engine is not mechanically connected to the road wheels. It's called "series" because the engine-powered electric generator has to make electricity first before the car will move. Make electricity first means the generator either supplies the electric drive motors with power or charges the battery, or both. It appears the Harvester architecture will also be a PHEV (Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle), which means it can be plugged in to a charger to charge the battery in advance of the engine-generator supplying power to the electric drivetrain. Once the battery reaches a predetermined level of energy depletion the engine-generator starts and begins powering the electric drivetrain.
Thanks. I actually recommend you
consider make this a stand alone thread. I’ve been understanding it better the more I read through the info here and this will be my first hybrid. But I agree it gets confusing when someone says it’s not a hybrid then others explain it is. I am sure there are enough first timers like me (there always are on forums) that would benefit from understanding the basics.
 
 
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