What will be the Traveler's turning circle?

[Flyinglow]

Maneuverability is critical to me. Has anyone heard a reported turning circle spec for the Traveler?

 

[2wheeltraveler]

I'm in a similar boat, my wife is only interested in the traveller if it has a turning radius as good as her Jeep Grand Cherokee (which is excellent @ 18.55')...

I unintentionally reinforced that with a trip downtown last week where we got boxed into a corner in a parking lot and had to make a 15 point exit with my F-150 lightning (which is really bad @ 23.9').

We were very close to not being able to get out. Yes, we could have taken her Jeep but we like driving the lightning more. We also park in a surface lot and thought we were safe vs Austins tiny parking garages which are not full size truck friendly (it's doable, but not desirable).

 

[gimesnow]

Years ago I had a 1974 IH Scout II. It had the tightest turning radius of any car, SUV, or truck, I've ever owned.

The wheel base was just 100 inches in length. Even with that short wheel base, it turned surprisingly sharp. Passengers would always be amazed when I made what seemed like a 90 degree turn into a parking space with ease.

The new Scouts will be longer, so I wouldn't expect anything like that, but I hope they can make a reasonably tight turn for their size. If it's more like my F-150, I'll just stick with the new Bronco.

 

[Mousehunter]

I used to drive a crew cab F150 in Austin. Generally I did not have to park downtown - and if I had any advance notice, I would take a different vehicle to work. Now I have a crew cab F250. The cab is longer and the bed is longer. I ONLY take it into Austin if I have to. It is not fun in Austin in general, and that is not limited to parking garages.

That said, my wife's Jeep Unlimited has a great turning circle - but I still get nervous in garages - one low pipe and wham. The warning when you enter is only worth so much - as 95% of the garage might be fine, and only a few spots have the low pipes. I hate feeling like I can touch the pipes with my fingertips when I drive under them. My F250 is probably more than 6" taller - I don't even try with it. It's taller by nature, then add the roof rack and the stuff on the roof rack - just don't do it.

 

[timmyhil]

Being that it has no 4wheel steering and its 120.7” wheelbase, my guess is anywhere from 35’-45’

 

[2wheeltraveler]

(AI generated)

Estimating the Turning Radius for the Scout Traveler
To estimate the turning radius of the Scout Traveler based on the wheelbase of similar vehicles, we can analyze the relationship between wheelbase and turning radius from the provided data.Vehicle Specifications:

• Ford F-150 Lightning: Wheelbase = 145", Turning Radius = 23.9'
• Jeep Grand Cherokee: Wheelbase = 114.8", Turning Radius = 18.55'
• Jeep Wrangler Unlimited: Wheelbase = 118.4", Turning Radius = 20.4'
• Rivian R1T: Wheelbase = 135.8", Turning Radius = 22.5'
• Rivian R1S: Wheelbase = 121.1", Turning Radius = 18.5'
• Scout Traveler: Wheelbase = 120.4"

Analysis

1. Turning Radius vs. Wheelbase:
   • The Jeep Grand Cherokee has the shortest wheelbase (114.8") and the smallest turning radius (18.55').
   • The Jeep Wrangler Unlimited has a slightly longer wheelbase (118.4") and a larger turning radius (20.4').
   • The Rivian R1S, with a wheelbase of 121.1", has a turning radius of 18.5', which is quite tight for its size.
   • The Rivian R1T has a longer wheelbase (135.8") and a turning radius of 22.5'.
   • The Ford F-150 Lightning, with the longest wheelbase (145"), has the largest turning radius (23.9').
2. Estimating the Turning Radius for the Scout Traveler:
   • The Scout Traveler's wheelbase of 120.4" is closer to the Rivian R1S and Jeep Wrangler Unlimited than to the Ford F-150 Lightning.
   • Given the turning radius of the Rivian R1S (18.5') and the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (20.4'), we can expect the turning radius of the Scout Traveler to be somewhat larger than that of the Rivian R1S but smaller than that of the Rivian R1T (22.5') and the Ford F-150 Lightning (23.9').

Conclusion
Based on the wheelbase of the Scout Traveler (120.4"), we can estimate its turning radius to be approximately 20 to 21 feet. This estimate places it between the turning radii of the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited and the Rivian R1T, reflecting its intermediate wheelbase.

 

[Latrant]

(AI generated)

Estimating the Turning Radius for the Scout Traveler
To estimate the turning radius of the Scout Traveler based on the wheelbase of similar vehicles, we can analyze the relationship between wheelbase and turning radius from the provided data.Vehicle Specifications:

• Ford F-150 Lightning: Wheelbase = 145", Turning Radius = 23.9'
• Jeep Grand Cherokee: Wheelbase = 114.8", Turning Radius = 18.55'
• Jeep Wrangler Unlimited: Wheelbase = 118.4", Turning Radius = 20.4'
• Rivian R1T: Wheelbase = 135.8", Turning Radius = 22.5'
• Rivian R1S: Wheelbase = 121.1", Turning Radius = 18.5'
• Scout Traveler: Wheelbase = 120.4"

Analysis

1. Turning Radius vs. Wheelbase:
   • The Jeep Grand Cherokee has the shortest wheelbase (114.8") and the smallest turning radius (18.55').
   • The Jeep Wrangler Unlimited has a slightly longer wheelbase (118.4") and a larger turning radius (20.4').
   • The Rivian R1S, with a wheelbase of 121.1", has a turning radius of 18.5', which is quite tight for its size.
   • The Rivian R1T has a longer wheelbase (135.8") and a turning radius of 22.5'.
   • The Ford F-150 Lightning, with the longest wheelbase (145"), has the largest turning radius (23.9').
2. Estimating the Turning Radius for the Scout Traveler:
   • The Scout Traveler's wheelbase of 120.4" is closer to the Rivian R1S and Jeep Wrangler Unlimited than to the Ford F-150 Lightning.
   • Given the turning radius of the Rivian R1S (18.5') and the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (20.4'), we can expect the turning radius of the Scout Traveler to be somewhat larger than that of the Rivian R1S but smaller than that of the Rivian R1T (22.5') and the Ford F-150 Lightning (23.9').

Conclusion
Based on the wheelbase of the Scout Traveler (120.4"), we can estimate its turning radius to be approximately 20 to 21 feet. This estimate places it between the turning radii of the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited and the Rivian R1T, reflecting its intermediate wheelbase.

I still wish they would incorporate rear wheel steer but that adds yet more complexity and cost.

L

 

[2wheeltraveler]

I still wish they would incorporate rear wheel steer but that adds yet more complexity and cost.

L

Yeah, me too… while it’s not “necessary” per-say, it’s one of those things that once you experience how much it it improves the driving experience, it’s hard to not desire it on every vehicle. And it’s not just for one-off situations like we describe above, it’s hundreds of little experience improvements over the life of driving that make it so desirable.

I have to assume the harvester makes this even more complicated by reducing space in the rear of the vehicle...

 

[Flyinglow]

(AI generated)

Estimating the Turning Radius for the Scout Traveler
To estimate the turning radius of the Scout Traveler based on the wheelbase of similar vehicles, we can analyze the relationship between wheelbase and turning radius from the provided data.Vehicle Specifications:

• Ford F-150 Lightning: Wheelbase = 145", Turning Radius = 23.9'
• Jeep Grand Cherokee: Wheelbase = 114.8", Turning Radius = 18.55'
• Jeep Wrangler Unlimited: Wheelbase = 118.4", Turning Radius = 20.4'
• Rivian R1T: Wheelbase = 135.8", Turning Radius = 22.5'
• Rivian R1S: Wheelbase = 121.1", Turning Radius = 18.5'
• Scout Traveler: Wheelbase = 120.4"

Analysis

1. Turning Radius vs. Wheelbase:
   • The Jeep Grand Cherokee has the shortest wheelbase (114.8") and the smallest turning radius (18.55').
   • The Jeep Wrangler Unlimited has a slightly longer wheelbase (118.4") and a larger turning radius (20.4').
   • The Rivian R1S, with a wheelbase of 121.1", has a turning radius of 18.5', which is quite tight for its size.
   • The Rivian R1T has a longer wheelbase (135.8") and a turning radius of 22.5'.
   • The Ford F-150 Lightning, with the longest wheelbase (145"), has the largest turning radius (23.9').
2. Estimating the Turning Radius for the Scout Traveler:
   • The Scout Traveler's wheelbase of 120.4" is closer to the Rivian R1S and Jeep Wrangler Unlimited than to the Ford F-150 Lightning.
   • Given the turning radius of the Rivian R1S (18.5') and the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (20.4'), we can expect the turning radius of the Scout Traveler to be somewhat larger than that of the Rivian R1S but smaller than that of the Rivian R1T (22.5') and the Ford F-150 Lightning (23.9').

Conclusion
Based on the wheelbase of the Scout Traveler (120.4"), we can estimate its turning radius to be approximately 20 to 21 feet. This estimate places it between the turning radii of the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited and the Rivian R1T, reflecting its intermediate wheelbase.

In addition to wheelbase, turning radius is also determined by the maximum steering angle of the front wheels. The Silverado EV non 4-wheel-steering versions actually aren't as bad as might be expected because of a large front steering angle. In the absence of an official specification, I would love to see a Scout with the wheels cranked as far as they can turn and have someone measure that angle.