Scout Traveler displayed in downtown Denver Colorado. Lots of closeup detail pics

[Loodias]

Headliner envy...

 

[Mousehunter]

35" wheels I think are now factory on some Jeep and Ford trims (and I would be extreamly surprised if Chevy and Dodge don't have any). My 2017 Ford was OEM 35".. I could easily be wrong, but I don't know of any consumer vehicles that come with anything larger OEM. I think there may be plenty of commercial vehicles that might.

It would make some sense for Scout to at least include them as an option, they are very common.

 

[WD.]

35" wheels I think are now factory on some Jeep and Ford trims (and I would be extreamly surprised if Chevy and Dodge don't have any). My 2017 Ford was OEM 35".. I could easily be wrong, but I don't know of any consumer vehicles that come with anything larger OEM. I think there may be plenty of commercial vehicles that might.

It would make some sense for Scout to at least include them as an option, they are very common.

Bronco Raptor comes with 37s as the only option for tires sizes. F-150 Raptor comes with 35s standard with the option of upgrading to a 37 package.

 

[OlyScout]

As I said in my original post, I have seen it described both ways, but the Scout rep I spoke to at the Denver showing was clear that the battery was good for 350 miles and the Harvester would be able to charge the battery to allow another 150 miles.

this makes sense to me as my buddy with a rivian says his range is just shy of 400 miles. I can’t see why a designer would make an EV with only a 150 range on main battery.

If what you were told is true that would mean both battery packs are the same, yet their 0-60 time is one second off so they’re not.

 

[mdhanson21]

I believe it has been confirmed that it is the other way around... 150 miles on battery and 350 miles of extended range from the ICE. It's just wishful thinking otherwise...

Looking at the Scout website it says the Harvester will have a 60kWh battery and the Electric model will have a 120kWh battery, so this makes sense.

 

[Goose]

Looking at the Scout website it says the Harvester will have a 60kWh battery and the Electric model will have a 120kWh battery, so this makes sense.

Where does it say that on the Scout Motors website? Based on current EV's, there's no way in hell either of these Scout bricks are going to get 350 miles of range (with 33's or 35's) with a 120kWh battery. Rivian has a 140kWh battery in the max pack, with the 34" A/T tires the range is reduced to 370 miles. I know the Scouts are concept vehicles, and designs can change, but the R1T and R1S are both slimmer and more streamlined than Scout concepts.

Plus, that 120kWh battery is going to be complete ass for those of us that want to tow anything. I have no interest in the EREV, I know it fills a niche, but I'm not interested in the added complexity.

If Rivian releases a R1T with coil spring suspension and the max pack I'm going to jump ship from Scout. Scout NEEDS to release more details.

 

[mdhanson21]

Where does it say that on the Scout Motors website? Based on current EV's, there's no way in hell either of these Scout bricks are going to get 350 miles of range (with 33's or 35's) with a 120kWh battery. Rivian has a 140kWh battery in the max pack, with the 34" A/T tires the range is reduced to 370 miles. I know the Scouts are concept vehicles, and designs can change, but the R1T and R1S are both slimmer and more streamlined than Scout concepts.

Plus, that 120kWh battery is going to be complete ass for those of us that want to tow anything. I have no interest in the EREV, I know it fills a niche, but I'm not interested in the added complexity.

If Rivian releases a R1T with coil spring suspension and the max pack I'm going to jump ship from Scout. Scout NEEDS to release more details.

I found this on the website under Charging and Energy


While final specifications for the production models have not been released, we expect the capacity of the battery packs to be in the ranges below:

Full-electric models: 120-130 kWh
Harvester range extender models: 60-70 kWh

We’ll be sharing more details about battery sizes as we get closer to production. Stay tuned for updates.

 

[Goose]

I found this on the website under Charging and Energy


While final specifications for the production models have not been released, we expect the capacity of the battery packs to be in the ranges below:

Full-electric models: 120-130 kWh
Harvester range extender models: 60-70 kWh

We’ll be sharing more details about battery sizes as we get closer to production. Stay tuned for updates.

*edit* - I found the information you referenced. Man, the Scout Motors website needs to be cleaned up too, this was buried. 120-130kWh still isn't enough energy for what these vehicles will be used for. EV's hardly ever hit their EPA estimated range unless you're on the highway and don't exceed 55mph.

 

[Timmdodge60]

*edit* - I found the information you referenced. Man, the Scout Motors website needs to be cleaned up too, this was buried. 120-130kWh still isn't enough energy for what these vehicles will be used for. EV's hardly ever hit their EPA estimated range unless you're on the highway and don't exceed 55mph.

My guess is that the 350 mile maximum BEV range is for city only driving, which is typically the most efficient driving for EVs due to brake regeneration and no engine idling at stops. It will definitely depend on the environment, driving habits, and resisting the heavy foot in any case.

 

[BroncoScout]

Dang, why didn’t I reserve both on opening day! If this goes well Scouts will be as popular as 4-Runners and Tacos here in Subaru country also known as Portlandia.

 

[Goose]

My guess is that the 350 mile maximum BEV range is for city only driving, which is typically the most efficient driving for EVs due to brake regeneration and no engine idling at stops. It will definitely depend on the environment, driving habits, and resisting the heavy foot in any case.

The EPA cycle is a mix of city and "highway" driving, however, as far as I know, highway speeds are limited to 55mph.

For the Rivian Gen 2 vehicles with the max pack (nearest competitions), they have 140kWh battery and 410 miles of EPA range with 22" aero wheels. That comes to an average 2.93mi/kWh to meet the advertised range. Real world anecdotal feedback indicates most owners are getting around 2.5mi/kWh with the aero wheels, and 2.1mi/kWh with the 34" A/T.

Either way you cut it,120-130kWh is not big enough. We need a big boy battery for adventure vehicles that are expected to be used as tow/hauling rigs.

 

[E90400K]

The EREV range is a total of 500 miles. 150 miles in BEV only mode, or 500 miles in hybrid mode, meaning the generator increases the range by 350 miles (consuming the 15 gallons of gasoline stored on-board in the fuel tank). These approximate numbers have been stated by the Scout Company CEO on numerous occasions, all easily found on the Web.

The battery never gets fully depleted. The generator starts charging the battery to keep it at a state of charge necessary for the load required of it.

 

[A-A-Ron]

She's a beaut!

 

[CyberJoe]

"also verified that the battery only mileage is 350, with another 150 provided by the Harvester engine charging the battery”

You sure about this? It would be great if true but it sounds like the rep is misinterpreting the specs.

 

[maynard]

"also verified that the battery only mileage is 350, with another 150 provided by the Harvester engine charging the battery”

You sure about this? It would be great if true but it sounds like the rep is misinterpreting the specs.

yep - the rep had it backwards...