"Traditional" truck features

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I'll ask this knowing that these aren't details we probably know yet (or don't have full details for yet), and with the caveat that I've never owned or ridden in anything like a Rivian - I'm coming from a traditional ICE F150 - but there are certain things that seem trivial, but I've come enjoy/expect/depend on, wondering what people think the Scout may have. This is by no means a comparison or criticism of anything on the Scout, so much as some of the little things Ford, etc has that have become sort of a given on my current truck that I would notice if I no longer had them.

Android Auto (or Car Play) - love having always up-to-date maps and traffic, as well as music apps on my phone. I believe Rivian does not and has no plans to support this, and I think I read somewhere that some of the infotainment systems in the Scout may have come from Rivian. For those with Rivians, how is the nav/nav updates - after using AA, I'd never go back to Ford's nav.

Adaptive Cruise Control - after having this on my latest F150, I can't imagine ever not having it on long trips.

Heated Steering Wheel - don't think I have seen this mentioned, but I gotta believe it will have this.

Rain Sensing wipers - Seems really trivial, and certainly not a deal breaker, but something I'd expect in a modern vehicle in this price range.

Auto headlights/auto high beam - I'm spoiled not having to think about lights/high beams. You'd think this would be obvious (it gets dark, turn on lights, duh), but at dusk and heading into dark, esp in brightly lit areas, it's surprisingly easy to forget to turn on headlights.

Pro Power Onboard - looks like they have something similar, but it will be curious to see how it compares to the 7.2kw Ford offers, and if the generator can help power this like the Ford when the truck is off, esp during long workloads or powering a house during extended power outages, or to power a camper when boondocking. I do like that there are outlets both inside and outside the bed - being able to have a bed cover and having the bed closed and locked and still use those outlets is pretty cool. Hoping it will be a pure sine wave vs modified sine wave inverter. If it's *only* an inverter off the battery and harvester isn't part of the equation, that would severely limit it's usefulness.

Tailgate Features - an amazing amount of thought has gone into small details on the Ford tailgate: as I have gotten older, I've come to appreciate the tailgate step for getting in and out of the bed. Newer models have openings for clamps, molded in ruler, cup/phone holder, etc to make it a more usable workspace. I think Scout is positioned more as an offroader than a worksite truck, but why can't we have both (esp that step for old knees) :)

Power running boards - not sure how this would look on a Scout, but without it, that looks like a bit of a big step up for the wife and kiddos. If I had to bet, if Scout doesn't offer it, I'm sure 3rd parties will.

360 cameras - Really nice feature when parking in tight spots. Even the multiple camera views on the tailgate for farther away and close up views of the hitch when guiding to hook up to a trailer is nice. Tailgate down reverse cameras are a nice touch by Ford that would be nice to have on any truck. Just sayin' lots of cameras is nice.

Bed/tailgate lighting - in-bed lights I would think be a given for a truck in this price range, and a light on the tailgate for hooking up in the dark would be nice.

Tow Mirrors - I won't expect the Terra to have anything like tow mirrors - either the larger mirrors like Ford offers or mirrors that can be extended out to the side farther when towing. Guessing if it's needed, someone will come up with some of those strap on extenders to fit a scout.

Anyway, didn't mean this to be a "here's what's better about an F-Series over a Scout", so much as just listing some of those smaller things that at least I have gotten used to and would miss not having. That said, few of these are deal breakers, and the Scout looks to be a fantastic truck.

If nothing else, I'm really glad to see EREV becoming popular - things like the Ramcharger, a rumored Super duty EREV, and I gotta believe with the Scout and Ram, Ford is looking at an EREV option on the Lightning. I love that the Scout has EREV and still has a frunk, though maybe not so much if it turns out this sacrifices the ability to keep going as long as you put gas in it.
 

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Have the tailgate step in my F250. Mine is worse than useless. Steps are great - I have an AMP research on the side of my bumper. The tailgate step requires the tailgate to be lowered to be used. Tended to jam. Ultimately allowed trash into the core of the tailgate causing the tailgate to not release.
 
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Brother-in-law has an F250 with the first gen tailgate step, and that was awful (grab bar folds to the inside of the tailgate and collects dirt and hooks up on everything). My F150 has the 2nd gen, with the grab bar that slides into the top of the tailgate - big improvement. I do like the corner steps on the Chevy's and newer Fords, and the AMP pull down corner steps are definitely a (possibly better) option if they make them for the Scouts.
 

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Coming from a Raptor, I can say that the Rivian electronics (including use of cameras, ACC, rain sensing wipers) make the Ford look like a dinosaur. I wouldnt think about that for more than half a second. There is no comparison.

Tailgate step I do miss that, but the R1T has a lower tailgate so jumping up on that thing isnt such a big issue.

Headlights. I assume by 2027 they will either use a very modern lens tech or matrix. Either option will equal an F150. Although the F150 has won awards for its lens design so it is very good admittedly.

While Rivian wont adopt carplay or AA, the ecosystem IMO is generally very good. Assuming they use the backend of Rivian and skin it with Scout front end I suspect it will have the same limitations (or advantages) of what we see in the Rivian roadmap.
 

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CarPlay / Android Auto:

I bet this decision is up to Scout whether they want to offer Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. Even though Scout will be using Rivian's software, it sounds like the company will be able to differentiate their UI and software from Rivian. Rivian's Chief Software Officer Wassym Bensaid just said this in an interview: each brand that uses the joint venture’s software will “continue to have their own identity,” as well as “their own features.”

Adaptive Cruise Control:

I don't know of any new vehicles coming out now that doesn't offer some form of Adaptive Cruise Control. And the Scouts are coming 2-3 years in the future. No way they won't have ACC.

Pro Power Onbaord Generator:

Scout confirmed the Terra and Traveler will be able to do Vehicle-to-Home V2H. I also hope like you that they give the Scouts special modes to power homes or long workloads with the vehicle off.
 
 
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