Battery Size kWh estimated

[Chuckles]

Serious off roading won't use up your electrons as fast as your engine's fuel but you won't want to get stuck out in the middle of nowhere and obviously carrying gas is easier than (or producing via solar) electrons. Though prudent use of your UX / metrics helps going past the point of no return.

How Scout will be able to price this out at their intended target with a battery pack that provides 350mi of range is beyond me but would be awesome if they can achieve this. I wouldn't be surprised if they came a little under that 350mi target in order to keep the battery size and cost down. Esp if they know they'll be introducing a solid state battery shortly after launch (I'd be surprised if it was an option at launch) that increases range by 10% to eventually hit that 350mi mark.

Though that said, a 400mi solid state BEV model might cause some to recalculate their need for the Harvester. At 500 miles of EV range, I think the Harvester starts becoming obsolete but that's a long ways off yet.

I agree that a 143kWh battery might be required to attain 350mi of range. Or maybe a 130kWh solid state. Just doesn't seem possible at the intended price point.

I'm sure Scout is factoring in reductions in the price of batteries. This article predicts in 2026 EV and ICE cars will have ownership cost parity.

https://www.goldmansachs.com/insigh...re-expected-to-fall-almost-50-percent-by-2025

 

[M3_R2]

Yes, I recall reading that article. In fact I kept the tab still open (amongst about 130 - who needs favorites!). It's definitely coming down. I hope they are right but I'm not sure it will be quite that aggressive. Scout has a very good idea of how many kWh will be required for 350mi of EV range on their vehicles and if they use VAG batteries, you'd think they would be very cost efficient.

Time will tell. In the meantime, I speculate.

 

[TwoJacks]

Try going camping where you have to run power to the campsite. Obviously you have never went camping or you would know. So you crack me up. And when you’re in your BEV thats dead from power your campsite, ill be flying by you in my Scout Harvester honking my horn laughing at you because ill have an extra gas can to get me home.

And 350 range on road is completely different when you’re off-road. You lose range off-road.

I camp all the time with a gas vehicle and a camper and the camper is self sufficient for power so no need to pull power off an EV. Also EV’s don’t lose as much efficiency off road as mentioned here. Long downhill passes in the Rockies give back a good amount of power through regen. Sure, it’s possible to come up with a route or two here and there, but most routes intersect with towns where charging will be available as the charging network expand. Crossing Namibia will be different. But this is not Namibia. The range issue for overlanding is overblown as is the whole notion that there are lots of true uninterrupted overlanding routes more than 100 miles in the US where those fancy red external gas jugs are necessary. Few and far between. They sure look cool though.

 

[Mouse63]

350 mile range in perfect weather conditions keeping it well within speed limits at 100% charge, brand new battery. However on the road you would charge to 80% thus range would be less than 280 miles. Cold weather would probably reduce that further to about 230 miles. Realistically, to avoid any range anxiety you probably would probably need to stop after 200 miles to top up. So roughly less than 3 hours per drive at highway speeds.

 

[joewilk45]

Solid state battery news fyi
How-Hyundai-Has-Put-Every-Automaker-On-Notice-With-Its-Upcoming-Solid-State-Battery-1

 

[ScoutChamp]

Scout has said that the BEV chemistry will be NMC in the 130-140 kw/h range. It is my understanding that NMC batteries take a performance hit at low state of charge levels. How is scout going to seal with this performance hit ?