Option for range extender power by diesel

[ddinh77]

Diesel fuel is more stable than gas fuel over time. Diesel Engine will less likely to get damaged by old diesel fuel as compared to gas engine being damaged by old gas fuel. Would it make more sense for the extender to be powered by diesel in case it May sits in the tanks for a while until the next use so that it will not foul up the engine components. Any thoughts? Thanks

 

[Mr._Bill]

As much as I would like it, I don't see it as a viable option. Diesel engines tend to be heavier and run hotter, and there's the issue with fuel gelling in cold weather.

It needs to be easy to use and maintain. Think along the lines of the typical owner and a motor home generator, and that's more of what to expect. It will probably have some sort of monitor to force the use of the generator to keep it from sitting too long without running and to keep the fuel from getting stale.

They have yet to announce any actual details about the generator, like engine size or output capacity.

 

[quikster]

I’m by no means a mechanical engineer but was just wondering the same thing. My coworker has diesel generators on his boat and at his farm and was just telling me how much quieter they run then gas

 

[TwoJacks]

Diesel would require a lot more emissions hardware as well as DPF and a longer certification cycle with potential bans in many European cities to consider. I give diesel a zero chance for the generator.

 

[AtomicPunk]

Diesel would require a lot more emissions hardware as well as DPF and a longer certification cycle with potential bans in many European cities to consider. I give diesel a zero chance for the generator.

As much as I would like to see it personally, I agree for all the reasons mentioned above. Plus, anything with VW and diesel would likely be dead in the water immediately.

 

[Scooby24]

Diesel would require a lot more emissions hardware as well as DPF and a longer certification cycle with potential bans in many European cities to consider. I give diesel a zero chance for the generator.

This - Zero chance.

 

[dnh]

Diesel would require a lot more emissions hardware as well as DPF and a longer certification cycle with potential bans in many European cities to consider. I give diesel a zero chance for the generator.

Would emission controls apply to a generator?

 

[Scooby24]

Would emission controls apply to a generator?

Yes. EREVs are classified and their range extended units are called APUs and are subject to requirements.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/understanding-scouts-new-range-extender-evan-coder-yt6zc/

The APU must meet SULEV 30 or better emissions requirements.

A Diesel is not going to meet those requirements.

And at least as we've heard, the 150 mile all electric range and potentially 350 miles extended range also doesn't meet this requirement either......but neither does the Ramcharger so maybe the credits there aren't needed.

· The range provided by the APU must be equal to, or less than the all-electric range.

edit: Ramcharger is being classified as a serial plug in hybrid. I'm betting Scout is going to go for the same so that they have more flexibility in how the APU is utilized, as well as simply not being able to meet the BEVx range requirement above.

 

[dnh]

Yes. EREVs are classified and their range extended units are called APUs and are subject to requirements.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/understanding-scouts-new-range-extender-evan-coder-yt6zc/

The APU must meet SULEV 30 or better emissions requirements.

A Diesel is not going to meet those requirements.

And at least as we've heard, the 150 mile all electric range and potentially 350 miles extended range also doesn't meet this requirement either......but neither does the Ramcharger so maybe the credits there aren't needed.

· The range provided by the APU must be equal to, or less than the all-electric range.

TY